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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: nuteacher on July 20, 2013, 10:49:57 PM
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I ran across this at a thrift shop ($15). Two questions...what is it and is it an antique or no?
Thanks!
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look religeous...reminds me of a lectern..or part of one...where you would sit the bible.....or am i barking up the wrong tree..... ;D
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It does appear to be a double sided lectern but I have never seen one with candle holders attached! Maybe this was used in a private library or sitting room, or by monks. Maybe someone who would need to keep records in the evening. Just throwing out Ideas. :) What does the top finial look like? Great piece where are you located? could you give us some close ups of the carved in areas and construction? Can't wait to see what the others think!
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What is the size ?? Is it very lightweight ??
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I was thinking it may have been used for displaying 2 copies of a "notice", etc., so that 2 people could view at same time.
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Wood looks like Cypress !!
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First of all....need the size of said item!
I have seen one similar over the years that you would put the picture of a loved one OR of a religious figurehead for honoring or memorium.
I would use it as a fancy recipe card holder! LOL
Would need to see a pic of the underside to answer any more information!
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Wood looks like Cypress !!
na...this is Cyprus......
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And since it appears to have a lid,, what about inside ?? For storing candles maybe ??
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KC I would love it as a place to put my recipe book in my kitchen!! I placed all my recipes in a pretty scrap booking book. They make so many pretty styles and I can add more sleeves as I find new Yummy recipes! :D
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If it is as I have seen...it isn't big enough for a book but the size of a recipe card! It isn't hollow and doesn't open but is more of a decor item. They were sold at home decorating shows. If they did open, one side would open out on hinge and hold more recipe cards, photos, etc. The knob at the top was for rotating the item only. Sold 1970's onward. Made in same manner of larger book holders from 1800's.
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I'll post more photos, dimensions, weight, etc. this afternoon.
I will say that the bottom has green felt and that when I bought it someone had 'improved' its utility by adding a lampshade - (I took it off - it seemed a sacrilege to see it skewered thus with a rod and electrical fittings.) The top is another candle holder through which a hole was drilled for the rod.
Nonetheless, my sense is that it was originally as it looks - looking online, there was one...a full standing lectern (not table top) but w/o the candle holders... described as a music stand where the instructor would see the same music as the student while giving voice or instrumental lessons - or, perhaps, two could see the music for each instrument while playing.
I too was intrigued by the possibility of a side opening to conceal or store something, but the thing is clumsily nailed with a few more modern brads. Would you have given it a gentle shake? :D I did...nothing rattled or clunked. Maybe I should open it up - perhaps there's an original copy of the constitution inside... ;)
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Well if it has modern brads and green felt,, it isn`t old !! Perhaps made like an old one though !!
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Well if it has modern brads and green felt,, it isn`t old !! Perhaps made like an old one though !!
..what do you mean it is,nt old....from where i,m sitting..this could be as old as the two of us together....just because some halfwit in the past has used modern nails and green felt. and used it as a lamp base..does,nt make it ...young..... :D
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The wood on the item sure looks old , what with all the (genuine?) wormholing & such .... but ... areas , such as in the 'upper left' section (as you face it from the front) seems to have been done with a router .
May just be some nice old wood that was repurposed into a replica ?
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OK...it weighs in at a less-than-hefty 5 pounds, measures 17" h x 13"w x 10"d. More photos:
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Well, found this but whether or not these dealers 'know' what they are describing/selling.......or just assuming ::)
http://www.fortelezaantiques.com/items/1014930/item1014930store.html
"Unusual 18thc pine wood book stand or lectern-on turned base that permits piece to pivot--has two candle holders holding 4 candles for illumination--termite damage-termites dead dead-the iron candle holders have been welded later to repair--perfect for display of small paintings-rare piece-21 inches high-12.5 inches deep and 16 inches wide"
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That's it! How in the world did you find the link?
I wonder at the measurements...I didn't include the finial in the height or the candle holders in the width/depth which may account for the difference.
Mine is missing the top to the finial (assuming there is supposed to be one; the one in the photo looks like an afterthought...), but appears to be in good condition otherwise. Assuming mine is an authentic "Italian 18thc Book Stand with Candle Holders" valued at $595, it's a good find for a thrift shop! :D
Thanks so much for your interest and information!
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well if thats been done with a rouiter....i,d better start learning....Chinese :D
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Where are you located ?? I wouldn`t get too excited yet !! That one that Sapphire found was in Puerto Rico !!
I don`t think it was made in the 18th century !! I still think its pretty new !! I find it odd that if it was as old as they say why are these two almost identical right down to the poorly carved/routed wood and the wood candleholders are identical with no imperfections !! The one Sapphire found said nothing nor did it show how it was put together which would have indicated its age !! Normally that's what we would look for !!
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Awwww.... don't spoil my delusion (if that's what it is.) :-\ We found it in a thrift store at South Lake Tahoe which is on the border of CA and NV, where many very wealthy people live...
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Ahem......where many poor people live that used to be wealthy before they spent it at the Casinos! :) LOL
Been there on family vacations many times (not the casinos but Lake Tahoe).
For the two to be exactly the same in appearances...still sticking with my 1990's dating!
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Beautiful view! :)
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Ahem......where many poor people live that used to be wealthy before they spent it at the Casinos! :) LOL
Been there on family vacations many times (not the casinos but Lake Tahoe).
For the two to be exactly the same in appearances...still sticking with my 1990's dating!
i did,nt know that there were any poor people in America....apart from Detroitees....
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Agree, Lake Tahoe is gorgeous! BUT COLD!!!!!!!!!! The water is freezing!!!! But have always loved the story about the Tea House on Fannette Island and Vikingsholm Castle!
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Back to the object in question.
If I was a betting person, I'd say the one down in Puerto Rico has had its lamp fittings removed as well. :-X
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Well, found this but whether or not these dealers 'know' what they are describing/selling.......or just assuming ::)
http://www.fortelezaantiques.com/items/1014930/item1014930store.html
"Unusual 18thc pine wood book stand or lectern-on turned base that permits piece to pivot--has two candle holders holding 4 candles for illumination--termite damage-termites dead dead-the iron candle holders have been welded later to repair--perfect for display of small paintings-rare piece-21 inches high-12.5 inches deep and 16 inches wide"
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termite damage....ha, ..looks more like bullet holes..... ;D
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Times are (were)tough...maybe a shotgun? My wife says it's used for a 'distressed' look, along with a hammer and other instruments of torture.. :D
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Times are (were)tough...maybe a shotgun? My wife says it's used for a 'distressed' look, along with a hammer and other instruments of torture.. :D
yeah!!...wives can be like that sometimes..... ;D
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No Comment!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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termite damage....ha, ..looks more like bullet holes.....
nuteacher, just tell anyone that asks ..... that it was made out of "wormy Chestnut". ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Termite damage, .... bullet holes, ..... will deflate its value.
Wormy Chestnut will inflate its value. To wit:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070607111513AApy8BT (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070607111513AApy8BT)