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Title: Merv's clock
Post by: greenacres on August 10, 2013, 03:54:59 PM
This is Merv's clock.
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Post by: Ipcress on August 10, 2013, 04:32:03 PM
Image of the backplate is too blurred. Are there any other marks aside from the numbers ?


Title: Re: Merv's clock
Post by: greenacres on August 10, 2013, 04:37:34 PM
I'll see if I took a better picture. He's 99. He's my mother in laws friend.
Title: Re: Merv's clock
Post by: Ipcress on August 10, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
The backplate of the movement, please ! I can see numbers etc.

The decoration below the clock face, is this porcelain, cloisonne or some form of pietra dura ?
Title: Re: Merv's clock
Post by: greenacres on August 10, 2013, 04:59:13 PM
I'll ask if we can run downstairs after dessert.
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Post by: greenacres on August 10, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
I forgot to add there are matching candlesticks.
Title: Re: Merv's clock
Post by: Ipcress on August 10, 2013, 05:21:27 PM
At 99 ? Take your time  ;D
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Post by: greenacres on August 10, 2013, 05:29:55 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Merv's clock
Post by: greenacres on August 10, 2013, 06:24:04 PM
Merv says it's french. It was sent to a Philadelphia jeweler.
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Post by: greenacres on August 10, 2013, 06:26:25 PM
Wrong pic.
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Post by: Ipcress on August 10, 2013, 06:33:50 PM
Well there's a Philadelphia retailers mark on the back plate. Ends in " ...ell & Co " i think

There's also a mark slightly obstructed by the movement which looks like a Japy Freres mark. Also says " Made In France " so it's 1896 or later. Looking at the fairly high number i'd say about 1900-1910.
Title: Re: Merv's clock
Post by: greenacres on August 10, 2013, 06:59:27 PM
He was quoted a price a while ago. What do you think the value is?
Title: Re: Merv's clock
Post by: Ipcress on August 10, 2013, 07:45:23 PM
Well i haven't seen the candlesticks or examined the mosaic decoration, but i had a quick Google on that Philadelphia retailer and it could be JE Caldwell & Co ( might be on the dial too ) which enhances the value.
So if it's Japy Freres or Martie et Cie, and the candlesticks are nice....could be $1000- 2000
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Post by: greenacres on August 10, 2013, 08:31:51 PM
He told me at one point he had it appraised for $5, 000.. I don't know who told him that. Someone offer him $3, 000. and he said no because he knew it was worth more. I told him that things are only worth what people are willing to pay for them. I think the problem is partially  the old appraisals.  So now he is stuck because he thinks if he takes less he's loosing out. "Sometimes we can't always get what we want" But if you try sometimes you just must find you get what you need  ;D. I told him he could do eBay and put a reserve on it and see wnat happens.
Title: Re: Merv's clock
Post by: Ipcress on August 11, 2013, 04:11:34 AM
It might have been appraised for insurance, so $5,000 is believable. Someone selling that in a shop will ask more than what it fetches at auction, won't they ?
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Post by: greenacres on August 11, 2013, 06:05:13 AM
True. Merv is on the ball. He may be 99 but he does know what he has, lol. His problem is bis age. He realizes that he doesn't have that much time. I bet he lives to 110. :)  I'll try to explain the retail verses private sale or auction.
Title: Re: Merv's clock
Post by: mart on August 11, 2013, 10:19:03 AM
Like Ipcress said appraisals are usually always for insurance purposes and are more than the retail value !!  Explain to him that the antiques market is like the stock market,, ups and downs !!  Value today is not what valiue tomorrow will be !!  And not all antiques hold or increase in value !!