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Title: What are these Tools?
Post by: KevinM on September 07, 2013, 07:41:18 PM
I purchased these tools at the TS today and I'm wondering what they are used for? Neither of the tools have any maker identification marks on them. They both open and close in either direction.

My first impression was that they were nut crackers but I later dismissed that and thought perhaps they were some kind of old carpenters tools perhaps one to pull nails out and the other to put or remove studs into or from wood.

Any idea what these tools are, how old they might be and who made them?

Thanks!
Kevin

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1514/isyx.jpg)
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mart on September 07, 2013, 07:49:53 PM
Look like nut crackers to me !!  Have never seen a carpenters tool even similar to these !!  Get a pecan and try it !!
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: greenacres on September 07, 2013, 08:00:36 PM
Lobster and crab leg crackers. They used them in restaurants.
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: greenacres on September 07, 2013, 08:01:47 PM
The long skinny ones are to pick out the meat of the shellfish.
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: bigwull on September 07, 2013, 08:12:55 PM
i knew there was more to you, than you were letting on......well done you.....you get a brownie point.....
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mart on September 07, 2013, 08:34:24 PM
Well, since we have no shellfish in the middle of Texas,, I will take your word for it !! Still would make good nutcrackers !! I have about 5 gallons of pecans here to work on,,want me to try them out for you ??
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: bigwull on September 07, 2013, 08:42:42 PM
Well, since we have no shellfish in the middle of Texas,, I will take your word for it !! Still would make good nutcrackers !! I have about 5 gallons of pecans here to work on,,want me to try them out for you ??
i learn something new ....never realised pecan,s came in liquid form....i always thought they were nuts....and came by the lb..... ;D
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: KevinM on September 07, 2013, 09:07:01 PM
Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.... we have 2 Winners??? Are they both for Lobsters or were they both intended for nuts or is one for lobsters and one for nuts as designed by the makers?

The long skinny handle one as described by greenacres I now think is for lobsters and or crabs but the other may be for nuts? I've now seen the long skinny handle one listed online and described for both lobsters and nuts. Sometimes you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't.  :)

How do we divide this brownie? Oh nuts! :(
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: greenacres on September 07, 2013, 09:33:36 PM
 ;D ;D when you eat a lobsters claw you need the cracker to break it open. They could used for both. Growing up we did use them for both. It's a mutli purpose tool. ;D
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: KC on September 07, 2013, 09:39:28 PM
They are lobster and crab crackers!!!  To crack the shell and pic out the meat!!!

Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: cogar on September 08, 2013, 04:31:03 AM
I have about 5 gallons of pecans here to work on,,want me to try them out for you ??

5 gallon......... :o :o

Mart, you need to borrow my nutcracker for that job. You would be all done in less than an hour and back on the form n' munchin pecans as you ponder the answers to posted questions. 

You can crack those pecans out bout as fast as you can pick them out of the bucket with this beauty of mine, ......... ;D ;D

Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mariok54 on September 08, 2013, 06:05:36 AM
I am getting jealous here ... I absolutely love pecans, but by the time we get them over here it's like eating the cardboard cover of a boring book!
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mart on September 08, 2013, 09:43:27 AM
Cogar,, that would be better than this tabletop job that hubby bought !! Works on same principal but is a headache to use !!  Have to adjust for each size which is a pain !!  New fall crop will be coming in about October,November !! Want me to send you some ??  You will have to crack then yourself though !! Not my favorite thing to do !! That's why I still have a bucket full !! I just shell as needed !!
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: cogar on September 08, 2013, 05:54:01 PM
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Have to adjust for each size which is a pain !! 


And that is the beauty of mine, Mart, it is self adjusting. You can put a black walnut in the bottom jaw "cup" n' crack it, followed by a hazelnut, then a hickory nut, etc., etc. ... and just keep right on a "levering" back n' forth ..... and you get a perfect "crack" most every time. 

And Mart, that was really nice of you to offer to send me some pecans because I love the taste of them also. I luv the taste of all the native nut species; Black Walnut, Butternut or White Walnut, Hickory nuts and Hazelnuts. 

But Mart, I'm not able to crack them out and I know Violet would not be thrilled about doing it. .... And they always tastes better when ya crack them for yourself.

Mart, I ought to sell you that nutcracker because I haven't used it in the past 10 years or so and have no plans to do so in the future.

And I thank you again for the offer.

Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: bigwull on September 08, 2013, 06:05:01 PM
just found the perfect avatar for you cogar.....seeing as how you are into nuts.....or am i barking up the wrong tree....
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mart on September 08, 2013, 06:31:55 PM
The house I used to own in the next town has an old pecan tree that is loaded each year !! Only reason I hated to sell that house was losing the pecan tree !! But my ex son-in-law bought it so I can still get all the pecans I want !!   Only problem with pecan trees is they usually only produce well every few years or so depending on climate and weather !!  Where did you get that nutcracker ?? I haven`t seen one like that !! 
Few years back I worked on a rehab house for my brother !! The town is in Texas hill country and is nothing but pecan trees !! I picked up probably three hundred pounds while I was there !! Could have sure used your nut cracker then !!   Gave pecans to everyone I knew and a bunch I didn`t !!  I just couldn`t stand to see them lay there and eventually ruin !!
They are so plentiful there that few even bother to pick them up !!
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: bigwull on September 08, 2013, 06:47:39 PM
take yer pick.....all the nutcrackers you,ll ever need.....oh, and you were correct...about said lobster/crab crackers...if you look closely for a pic of a walnut cracker on the left of images..you,ll see the one thats listed here...therefore you deserve ...an little something....

https://www.google.co.uk/search?newwindow=1&biw=1198&bih=665&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=cracking+nuts&oq=cracking+nuts&gs_l=img.12..0j0i5l2j0i24l3.63566.73002.0.87858.22.15.0.2.2.0.343.1838.1j11j0j1.13.0....0...1c.1.26.img..7.15.1876.K-n8MggCS1Y#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=ylhuc0jNP7PSVM%3A%3BohBBeyIckgdScM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F4.bp.blogspot.com%252F-jiSCOfFM5Xs%252FUP-6ALQqzFI%252FAAAAAAAABWE%252Ftuzc4DYdLIQ%252Fs320%252Fcrackingnutdarling.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fchrysmassociates.blogspot.com%252F%3B362%3B400
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mart on September 08, 2013, 06:59:51 PM
Well,, Greenacres said they are multi-purpose tools !!
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: KC on September 09, 2013, 05:13:30 PM
The wild pecan trees around us have the best tasting pecans around!  Several stores around here have electric pecan crackers that you can crack the massive gatherings....but the pecan trees around us produce very small pecans and they are too small!!  We only have 2 papershells and have to fight the squirrels for them!

What is a butternut? 

My grandmother had a black hickory nut tree and you could beat the heck out of them without hardly making a mark sometimes.  Boy did they taste good when you finally got through that thick shell!  One time we ran a half-track over them and most didn't crack!  :)
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mart on September 09, 2013, 06:57:07 PM
The little ones are native pecans !! Tiny but they have the best flavor of all !!  If you are ever in the area this fall KC, go to Clifton, Texas !! That where my brother lives,, I have never seen so many pecan trees in one spot !! And most are the large ones !! Find the Police Dept and there are pecan trees you can pick up all you want !! There are so many trees there that no one cares about them !!  The house I reworked was about a half block from the police dept !! I used to walk down there and pick them up !!
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: cogar on September 10, 2013, 03:53:27 AM


What is a butternut? 

My grandmother had a black hickory nut tree and you could beat the heck out of them without hardly making a mark sometimes.  Boy did they taste good when you finally got through that thick shell!  One time we ran a half-track over them and most didn't crack!  :)


KC, the Butternut is a member of the Walnut family and native from Canada to North Carolina. It has two names, Butternut and White Walnut.

The Black Walnut gets its name from the color of the wood ..... and so does the White Walnut.

The nut meat of the Black Walnut is still called Black Walnut kernels but the nut meat of the White Walnut is so great tasting that they “melt in your mouth” so to speak and thus the name Butternut. It is a longer nut than the Black Walnut but not as big around. And they are really hard to “crack” and get the nut meat out ….. but the taste is worth it. See picture below and link for more info. It is a beautiful wood and easy to work with.

(http://www.songonline.ca/images/nuts/butternuts.jpg)

http://clearstreamwood.com/wood/butternut.html  (http://clearstreamwood.com/wood/butternut.html)

And KC, I’ve never heard of one being called a “black hickory nut tree” but that’s not unusual because the “locals” oftentimes have their own names for “local” tree species. Like my Botany professor said, “You all go check out that Horse Chestnut tree that’s in bloom and don’t argueing with the “locals” when they tell you its a Mexican Horse Chestnut”.   ;D ;D

Anyway, KC, there are several varieties of Hickory nuts, from a wee small bitter tasting one called a Pig nut, then several medium size (1/2” to ¾” long) nuts with some thick and some thin shelled, then the Shellbark Hickory nut (3/4” to 1 ½” long) and then one that is like 2” long. 

The best thing when gathering Hickory nuts in the wild is to “crack” one open and iffen it don’t suit you, ...... go to the next tree.
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: cogar on September 10, 2013, 05:05:48 AM
 Where did you get that nutcracker ?? I haven`t seen one like that !! 


Mart, I almost forgot about you question. I was going to take a full-view picture of it and uh ..... oh well.

Mart, that nutcracker was in a local Saturday morning auction .... but grimy dirty and no paint on it and looking like junk. I had stopped by just to see what was being sold but couldn't stay. When I spotted it I told my good friend ... "Dick, I want you to buy that for me and I'll pay you when I see you next".

And he said "What if I want to buy it for myself, I like it too".

And I says "That's fine, you just be sure to buy for whatever it costs you, ... mark it up for your profit, ... then I will buy it from you". Dick was a dealer also and I knew he didn't want to buy it to keep.

Mart, I don't know its exact origin or it age but I'm sure it came from a farm house or outbuilding within the local area. And I'm sure its pre-1950, maybe even 20's or 30's.

And I say that because there use to be lots of "country folk" in this area that earned household money by gathering nuts, cracking them out and sellin the nut meats "by-the-quart". Sorta like "egg money", ya know.

Like that song goes …. “a country boy can survive” … by selling nut meats, May Apple root, Ginseng, animal pelts, etc. Of course now days they have a more lucrative “cash crop” with far less work involved. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mart on September 10, 2013, 07:38:10 AM
Yes I know that well,, we had cows and chickens !!  If you decide to sell the nutcracker,,let me know !!  I don`t have a lot of pecans to do each year but if reasonable I would certainly be interested !!
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: Rauville on September 10, 2013, 08:11:55 AM
All this talk of nuts reminded me of a quote by an old sheep herder / philosopher / author by the name of Archie Gilfillan.

Archie wrote:
“Thousands of us hurl ourselves into cities like nuts into a hopper and there, by grinding and rubbing against one another, we lose our natural form and acquire a superficial polish and a more or less standardized appearance.
In the country, the nuts are not subjected to the grinding process, so they retain their original character.”


Therefore,  I can only believe the “country nuts” here are the best! :D
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mariok54 on September 10, 2013, 10:25:55 AM
All this talk of nuts reminded me of a quote by an old sheep herder / philosopher / author by the name of Archie Gilfillan.

Archie wrote:
“Thousands of us hurl ourselves into cities like nuts into a hopper and there, by grinding and rubbing against one another, we lose our natural form and acquire a superficial polish and a more or less standardized appearance.
In the country, the nuts are not subjected to the grinding process, so they retain their original character.”


Therefore,  I can only believe the “country nuts” here are the best! :D

And country nuts this side of the pond!

I've never heard of Butternuts either ... I wonder if we can get them over here?
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mart on September 10, 2013, 10:43:22 AM
I will take that as a compliment Rauville !!  Us country nuts thank you !! :D
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: KC on September 10, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
Nice quote Rauville!

Mart, we have over 35 trees in our neighborhood...the squirrels and I are the only ones who gather the native pecans.  I get more than I need.  I generally wash them and bag them (unshelled) as Thanksgiving tokens to friends/family/businesses we deal with all year long!  The flavor on them is AMAZING!!!

I would love to try a butternut!!!  Will have to search them out.

Never hear of a white walnut!  Does it taste different than a black walnut?  Is it harder to crack?
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: bigwull on September 10, 2013, 01:45:08 PM
Nice quote Rauville!

Mart, we have over 35 trees in our neighborhood...the squirrels and I are the only ones who gather the native pecans.  I get more than I need.  I generally wash them and bag them (unshelled) as Thanksgiving tokens to friends/family/businesses we deal with all year long!  The flavor on them is AMAZING!!!

I would love to try a butternut!!!  Will have to search them out.

Never hear of a white walnut!  Does it taste different than a black walnut?  Is it harder to crack?
look no further.butternut sweets were common when i was young....which was eons ago....

http://www.henleysweets.com/loose-sweets/boiled/butternut-%28200g%29/c-26/c-77/p-469
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: mart on September 10, 2013, 02:34:09 PM
Nice quote Rauville!

Mart, we have over 35 trees in our neighborhood...the squirrels and I are the only ones who gather the native pecans.  I get more than I need.  I generally wash them and bag them (unshelled) as Thanksgiving tokens to friends/family/businesses we deal with all year long!  The flavor on them is AMAZING!!!

I would love to try a butternut!!!  Will have to search them out.

Never hear of a white walnut!  Does it taste different than a black walnut?  Is it harder to crack?

Don`t think concrete is as hard as a black walnut !!
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: KC on September 10, 2013, 04:34:06 PM
You would be surprised Mart.  Those at my Grannie Annie's would chip concrete!
Title: Re: What are these Tools?
Post by: greenacres on September 10, 2013, 05:37:41 PM
As the famous candy company says "Some times you feel like a nut and sometimes you don't!