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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: artx on September 22, 2013, 04:33:25 AM
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hi all i have here an new auction soon and i want to try to buy some few items.
here is the first item i want to try to buy:
this figure is made form marble 44cm long signed "Andreoni"
some one have any idea how much this figure is worth or have any other info about the artist?
thanks :)
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http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5269595
Orazio Andreoni 19th century Italian sculptor !! Found several listings,,just google "Andreoni marble sculpture" !! One above had the highest estimate !! Smaller works were $800. to $1200. estimate !! Can`t see what actual selling price was !! What is the estimate on yours ??
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What exactly does the full inscription say, it's hard to tell from your photo. The only sculptor I can find with that surname is Orazio, but the name on the base seems to begin with an H ?
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inscription also says: this is "A marble figure in the form of a beggar"
and the estimate is 700-1000$
THANKS
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No !! He means the signature !! On the others some were signed O. Andreoni !!
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Horace / Orazio
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It also looks like Horace, or something similar, to me but I can't see anywhere that says Orazio signed himself Horace.
I would still like to know exactly what the full inscription is
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oh ok i will try to take more picture and upload here.
I almost sure there is no "Orazio" there in the inscription.
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That bottom word seems to read 'sculpture', but why would that be?
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OK i just found this signed here:http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6723530
idk if is helping :)
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OK i just found this signed here:http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6723530
idk if is helping :)
That reads 'Fiaschi' which I imagine must be the name of the piece and then Studio and the sculptors name and Roma, which is how most of Orazio's pieces seem to be signed, Different to the one you are looking at ???
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It also looks like Horace, or something similar, to me but I can't see anywhere that says Orazio signed himself Horace.
I would still like to know exactly what the full inscription is
It's not by him, that's why. And i think it says ' sculpteur ', trying to signify that he did it.
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It also looks like Horace, or something similar, to me but I can't see anywhere that says Orazio signed himself Horace.
I would still like to know exactly what the full inscription is
It's not by him, that's why.
I was working on that assumption
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I agree !! Need a pic of the words where it is signed so we can read them all !! Need the one you are wanting to buy instead of what is written on others !!
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If the Auction House have put that estimate on it then they must have some idea as to who the sculptor is. Why not contact them and ask them who they are attributing it to?
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It also looks like Horace, or something similar, to me but I can't see anywhere that says Orazio signed himself Horace.
I would still like to know exactly what the full inscription is
It's not by him, that's why.
I was working on that assumption
That's why there are no other examples like this. It's similar to when someone copies the work of an artist who would normally sign his full name. The copier, or " follower " as it's referred to, will sign the Christian name with an initial. So Thomas Gainsborough is signed T Gainsborough.
I expect we'll see more of these in the next few months. I doubt it's worth the estimate.
( this is all going on the partial inscription we have. There is no other figure / sculpture attributed to a " Horace Andreoni " on the internet )
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If the Auction House have put that estimate on it then they must have some idea as to who the sculptor is. Why not contact them and ask them who they are attributing it to?
Not necessarily. See it all the time, especially in the US. Massive estimates on copies / fakes / things that aren't as old as they're described. I regularly see 20th century figurines described as 18th century Chelsea or Meissen. The same goes for Oriental items.
" A Qianlong blue and white plate " and it's just come off the boat.
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Goes to what I said in another post !! Be skeptical of anything someone is trying to sell you !! Because an item is in that style,, doesn`t mean it is of that era or style !!