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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: debodun on September 29, 2013, 07:16:23 AM
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I inherited this Browning "Sweet 16" single-barrel shotgun. I remember my dad getting it in the late 1950s. It is made in Belgium and is about 4 feet long and weighs 8 pounds. It has a ribbed barrel and a modified stock (rubberized end). The serial number is S 53877. My uncle cleaned it and said it is in excellent condition (95 - 98%). I've had an offer of $200 for it. I believe it may be worth more than that. I've been looking around and the prices I've found fluctuate widely. Can anyone here evaluate this firearm?
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made in 1956 i think. Can you take an image of the stock butt, and also a few more round the lock, trigger ? Should be a few more markings that will help ascertain potential value.
Thanks
$200 is a joke of an offer.
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Of course it's worth more than $200! If the stock has been shortened for the addition of the pad, it effects the value somewhat...but it still should be a $600 to $800 shotgun to anyone truly interested. You would see it in a shop or at a show priced at $1000+.
(Measure the "pull" length, the distance from the face of the trigger to the heel of the rubber pad. If it's 14 1/2" or so, it most likely has not been cut.)
Good luck!
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Of course it's worth more than $200! If the stock has been shortened for the addition of the pad, it effects the value somewhat...but it still should be a $600 to $800 shotgun to anyone truly interested. You would see it in a shop or at a show priced at $1000+.
(Measure the "pull" length, the distance from the face of the trigger to the heel of the rubber pad. If it's 14 1/2" or so, it most likely has not been cut.)
Good luck!
Yeah, that's why i wanted a close up of the stock butt. Maybe the pad is removable ?
There should also be a mark on the receiver / lock for the choke.
* = Full Choke
*- = Improved Modified
** = Modified (M)
**- = Improved Cylinder
**$ = Skeet
*** = Cylinder bore
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The "pull" is about 15 inches, if that helps any. I thought $200 was a low ball offer - that's why I refused it. The guy that made that offer said it was because the barrel had some rust inside, but when my uncle cleaned it, he said it was in "remarkable" condition for it's age and that guy was "full of it." Anyway, her are more photos.
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There are also some markings on the barrel that are difficult to see - they are partially obscured by the forestock.
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2 3/4" chamber, modified choke ( i think - partially obscured )
I'd be sticking a $1200 reserve on it, with a bit of descretion. Wonderful condition.
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I am dubious about selling firearms anyway. Although shotguns and rifles can be sold without the restrictions of handguns, it is still a weapon. Unless a collector buys it just to have it and not use it, but I can't be sure they won't. I don't like the idea of this gun killing or hurting animals, or worse, people. I only get it out when a person stops at my sale and asks if I have any hunting items. I always like to hear what they say, even an amusing offer like the $200.
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I respect that view. Have only ever sold deactivated firearms and antique percussion pistols.
Different world over there in America.
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I am dubious about selling firearms anyway. Although shotguns and rifles can be sold without the restrictions of handguns,
Almost without .....
An individual who does not possess a federal firearms license may not sell a modern firearm to a resident of another state without first transferring the firearm to a dealer in the purchaser's state
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This gun in our old book "04" lists at $850. in very good condition !! Would be much more now as Browning is one of the best guns made !! $1000. would be my estimate !!
As far as the guns hurting animals,, how do you think they get to the grocery store ?? Magic ?? I would be more interested in responsible hunting than hunting as a rule !!
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debodun, you can get an appraisal @, to wit:
Gun-Appraisals.Com ……. $9.95
Here is a listing of the 'bare minimum' information we require in order to ascertain the value of your gun.
• manufacturers name
• model
• serial number
• gauge/caliber
• barrel length
• condition
http://www.gun-appraisals.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=wiw2u.templates&templates_id=78 (http://www.gun-appraisals.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=wiw2u.templates&templates_id=78)
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I am dubious about selling firearms anyway. Although shotguns and rifles can be sold without the restrictions of handguns, it is still a weapon. Unless a collector buys it just to have it and not use it, but I can't be sure they won't. I don't like the idea of this gun killing or hurting animals, or worse, people. I only get it out when a person stops at my sale and asks if I have any hunting items. I always like to hear what they say, even an amusing offer like the $200.
bit of a contradiction here...you don,t want to sell it for less than its worth...but..you don,t like the idea of it being used to kill animals....in whatever form they come....If you are so concerned as to what it might be used for....Donate it to a museum....then, you,ll always know..it,ll never be use to blast some pair burdie oot o, the sky...
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This gun in our old book "04" lists at $850. in very good condition !! Would be much more now as Browning is one of the best guns made !! $1000. would be my estimate !!
As far as the guns hurting animals,, how do you think they get to the grocery store ?? Magic ?? I would be more interested in responsible hunting than hunting as a rule !!
..".how do you think they get to the grocery store."....and here was me thinking....they came this way.... ;D ;D
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Has anyone else noticed that no one has any dislikes or reservations about killing a fish? ;D ;D
I’ve often wondered if that was because fish don’t “cry out” in pain if hooked, stabbed or left to suffocate out of water.
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When the movie "Finding Nemo" came out we owned a boat. After seeing the movie we went fishing with my daughter. We liked to catch flounder at the time. My daughter became traumatized about catching the fish, lol. I was glad to buy the boat and glad to get rid of the boat.
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When the movie "Finding Nemo" came out we owned a boat. After seeing the movie we went fishing with my daughter. We liked to catch flounder at the time. My daughter became traumatized about catching the fish, lol. I was glad to buy the boat and glad to get rid of the boat.
catching cold blooded flukes is one thing....but totally different from blasting ..warm blooded burdies out of the sky....then maybe breaking a crown ..on a BB.....when you,re chewing on a goose leg.... ;D
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Yep, that doesn't sound so pleasant. I tell myself with the meat at the market to not to let the animals die in vein. They are already dead and I don't want it to be for nothing.
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Has anyone else noticed that no one has any dislikes or reservations about killing a fish? ;D ;D
I’ve often wondered if that was because fish don’t “cry out” in pain if hooked, stabbed or left to suffocate out of water.
thats what becomes from being a cold blooded animal....but you are correct....there has been a long running debate as to whether fish feel pain or not.....some say yes whilst others say no....I,..try not to think of it when i see a live lobster dropped into a tub of boiling water....i just enjoy eating it.....Please ..if there is a God....don,t let me come back as a lobster.... ;D
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I wouldn't want to be a shark either. They chop off their fins and they can't swim, and they die a horrible death. The worst animal can be humans. We are killing machines! We kill each other and animals and the oceans and wildlife. It was different many years ago. We ate to survive. Now we just kill to kill.
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Another idea if you want to sell, see what a gun dealer will offer you for it or maybe consign it at his shop for a % of sale. That way you avoid any issues in regards the buyer.
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Tell you what, dealers are often a good choice in selling antiques. True you don't get retail but i have sometimes sold a piece of my antique furniture collection to a dealer to make way for another piece or as a way to raise quick cash for a sale coming up.
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Not 100% sure , as to price (original/as-built) & if the stock has been cut the price/value would decrease , as other member(s) stated .
Market around here does vary quite a bit , but Browning collectors would like to have one in V.good-to-excellent condition .
Firearms are what they are & just like words or automobiles , sometimes it pays to choose wisely who to sell them to ! :D
Nice ole shotgun , debodun & looks like a keeper , for investment &/or trap-shooting !!!
Around here , assuming a few things , one like yours would tend to garner around $800-$900 .... but , at a Vegas gun auction ... who knows .
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A few months back in response to one of PETA`s idiotic rants,, e college student asked "why people killed animals to eat ?? Why didn`t they just buy meat at the grocery store where no animals were killed" ? These are college students who are that dumb !!
I wonder what they think would happen if no animals were killed in this country for food ?? They think that they, as well as the rest of us, could just become vegetarians if all the animals were just turned loose to roam the countryside and look pretty !! Okey dokey folks !! In good Texas farmland and with excellent pasture it takes 1 to 2 acres for a cow and a calf !! Multiply that by all the cows and the calf produced each year !! Doesn`t take a lot of intelligence to figure out that there would be no gardens or crops of any kind in a few years !! Horses take 3 times as much as a cow and lets not even talk about hogs !! You wouldn`t want to either if you had ever seen the total devastation caused by a few of them !! Same thing goes for all animals !! If hunting and culling wasn`t allowed as well as responsible slaughter and marketing of meat animals,, that diet you said you would start but didn`t,,would come in a much more rapid manner than you want !! No wheat, oats, or grain of any kind, nothing green would be left at all, not even the soybeans to make their vegetarian tofu, no fruit, nothing left at all !! And you can`t fence out a hungry cow !! They will figure out how to get in if they want to !!
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I wouldn't want to be a shark either. They chop off their fins and they can't swim, and they die a horrible death. The worst animal can be humans. We are killing machines! We kill each other and animals and the oceans and wildlife. It was different many years ago. We ate to survive. Now we just kill to kill.
your not far wrong there....
I love this from the Matrix...
Agent Smith makes a fascinating observation in the Matrix. That humans are like a virus: unlike other mammals who develop an equilibrium with whatever environment they are in, humans multiply and increase and use up resources. Mostly they destroy their environment. Agent Smith goes on to say that the human race is more like a virus than a species of mammals. This was an interesting observation to me. Why is it that God made humans destructive of their environment? I suppose that we weren’t meant to be so originally and that sin kind of messed things up. But it’s interesting that humans are the only creatures that have the potential to totally mess up the environment. I was watching a TED talk (I think it was a TED talk…) where someone mentioned that if you remove any organism from an ecosystem, the ecosystem falls apart. There’s one exception to that rule: human beings. Remove human beings from the ecosystem and the world flourishes
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Not as the world is today it wouldn`t !!
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In the not too distant future....there will be no Coos....they,ll all have been eaten...but fear not...there will always be the humble burger.... just not as you know it...... ;D
https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/id/signin?ptrt=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-23576143
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humans multiply and increase and use up resources. Mostly they destroy their environment. Agent Smith goes on to say that the human race is more like a virus than a species of mammals.
Maybe their demise was not caused by an asteroid, comet, etc., .... but the fact that the meat-eating dinosaurs kept multiplying until they ate themselves out of existence. And t'was then the wee mammals began their rise to dominance.
And Mart is correct, the urban dwellers love to take a weekend drive into the countryside and watch the deer, etc. meander around and feed in the rural dwellers fields, lawns and gardens. And those urban dwellers loved it so much they defeated a Sunday Hunting Law that was on the ballot. And the residents of Charleston made sure that all deer within the city and its suburbs were protected from any hunting or killing whatsoever.
But then the rural deer population began to explode and many of those deer quickly figured out that the bestest “eatin” was in the city and suburbs of Charleston. Especially all the fine “tastin” shrubbery and greenery around the houses, homes and mansions. Not to mention the fact that the number of vehicle-deer collisions exploded also. Well now, those urbanites didn’t like that crapolla and thus demanded something be done about all those mean ole, bad, destructive deer. So now there is a “SPECIAL” bow-hunting season for deer in and around the City of Charleston.
And, ps, the section of Interstate 79 in WV is one of the highest, … if not the highest, …. deer-kill roadways in the US. And I don’t mean 1 or 2 per week. It’s more like 5 to 10 per day during rut.
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Must be a great place to own a Recovery Truck...and have a big storage yard...for all of the smashed cars....i once hit a Roe Deer...which ..if you don,t know.... is a relatively small deer, with a body length of 95–135 cm (3.1–4.4 ft), a shoulder height of 65–75 cm (2.1–2.5 ft), and a weight of 15–35 kg (33–77 lb)....and it still wrecked the front of my car....compare that to a Red Deer Stag...that can weigh upwards of 240kg...or 530lbs....now a beast that size can wipe the car and its occupants out.....but the grand daddy of them all ..the Moose....now he can weigh up to 400kg...or 880lbs....I once saw a dead one in Norway...lying beside an equally dead 6 berth Motorhome....ouch!!
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Many of the deer/car collisions have the deer through the windshield and in the front seat of the car !! Guess where you wind up !!
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Many of the deer/car collisions have the deer through the windshield and in the front seat of the car !! Guess where you wind up !!
somewhere like this ...perhaps.... ;D
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And when a deer causes a driver to lose control of an overloaded semi that is motovating at 70+ MPH ....... then "Katy bar the door".
The deer kill along I-79 is down quite a bit from what it was in the late 80’s to the mid to late 90’s. As they completed sections of I-79 they hydro-seeded the right-away with Crown Vetch and Clover. And when it started growing good it attracted the Whitetails like sugar does ants. And thus with those hundreds n’ hundreds of acres of fine “unmolested” eating the deer population mushroomed. It was not uncommon then to see groups of 25 to 75+ deer feeding in the larger patches of Crown Vetch. And they liked to feed in the “medians” between the north/south lanes cause there was good eatin there also.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFCrJleggrI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
You must check out deer crossing video. I found it hard to believe, but it's real! ;D
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That,s one Dumb woman... ;D....
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That,s one Dumb woman... ;D....
They're everywhere, ..... they're everywhere, ...... and they're multiplying.
And I don't mean the deer.
But that's OK, the public schools have been teaching the younger generation the really important things in life.
Like how to control the weather, .... prevent global warming, .... that corporations are really bad, ...... the government is always right, .... that they deserve the same as anyone else ..... and its not their fault no matter what. ;D ;D ;D
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That,s one Dumb woman... ;D....
They're everywhere, ..... they're everywhere, ...... and they're multiplying.
And I don't mean the deer.
But that's OK, the public schools have been teaching the younger generation the really important things in life.
Like how to control the weather, .... prevent global warming, .... that corporations are really bad, ...... the government is always right, .... that they deserve the same as anyone else ..... and its not their fault no matter what. ;D ;D ;D
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"They're everywhere, ..... they're everywhere, ...... and they're multiplying."....yup..and ..they are a totally different species.......shall i run for cover now.... ;D
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NAH, we just hafta ignore them for now ...... otherwise they will try to re-educate us.
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That,s one Dumb woman... ;D....
They're everywhere, ..... they're everywhere, ...... and they're multiplying.
And I don't mean the deer.
But that's OK, the public schools have been teaching the younger generation the really important things in life.
Like how to control the weather, .... prevent global warming, .... that corporations are really bad, ...... the government is always right, .... that they deserve the same as anyone else ..... and its not their fault no matter what. ;D ;D ;D
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I am in total agreement !!
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How did we get so far off the original question?
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How did we get so far off the original question?
when things have run their course we get distracted.... ;D
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I weep for my generation. On the plus side though, if things keep going the way they are, I could be elected their benevolent dictator! But then again, I would need a college education first...
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How did we get so far off the original question?
I dunno, that's kinda the way it is around here. Thread goes to chit chat after subject matter is discussed. Thats not all a bad thing in my view, at least it keeps folks coming back to post.
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How did we get so far off the original question?
Thread goes to chit chat after subject matter is discussed. Thats not all a bad thing in my view, at least it keeps folks coming back to post.
;D ;D Did anyone else notice that Tale's post about her family Bible has like 97 replies?
It might be the "record" for this Forum.
Ps: I have a circa 64 Charles Daly (Miroku) o/u 20g, w/matched bbls. I could start another chit-chat thread for opinions of it. :D
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I found someone selling a similar model Browning. He wants almost $1900.
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Browning-sweet-16-A-5-16ga-28-barrel.cfm?gun_id=100110025
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what he wants..and what he gets are two different things...all he,s probably done is marked it high...so that if a potential buyer haggles him down..say 10/20%..then the buyer thinks he,s done well...and the seller is rubbing his hands, cos he might have settled for 30%..less...start high..and you can only go down....start at what you want..and..you,ll lose....