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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: valmont325 on October 02, 2013, 09:03:47 AM
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It appears to be an Antique copper Laundry Boiler, but the ones i have seen online do not have the "Vent" pipe hole on the top like this one does. Plus this is the only Hinged one i have found. Does anyone have any info on this piece? Sort of looking for an exact answer as to what this is.
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I don,t think thats, a vent pipe....more like a filling pipe that was attached to a water supply....
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Is it up on legs ??
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You didn't give its dimensions.
Anyway, many of the old wood cookstoves had a "hot water" reservoil on either the left or right (most times) side of the oven ...... which contained a copper container for the water.
That's what your item might be. ......See pic below.
(http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/new-cookstove.jpg)
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Can we see inside with the same view ?? Is the pipe threaded either inside or out ??
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Is it a warmer tray?
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Sorry, i will try and take more photos tomorrow. I don't believe there is any threading on the "Pipe" piece. What is weird is there is no Drain spot so you would have to disconect whatever and then tip it over to drain. NO it is NOT on legs. Its resting on a little ledge in the photo.
The size is pretty big. id say foot 1/2 tall maybe foot foot 1/2 wide 2 1/2 long?
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No new photos but i was reviewing tons of photos of Laundry Tubs/boilers and all the photos i see Have Handles. Mine does not. And i haven't seen any with a hinged lid...or a spout,pipe, vent thingy. This has me a little baffled.
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Please take a picture of the bottom for wear/tear markings.
I have seen old warmers in the past that were made of copper similar to this. The top was a vent so that humidity could escape.
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Please take a picture of the bottom for wear/tear markings.
I have seen old warmers in the past that were made of copper similar to this. The top was a vent so that humidity could escape.
a warmer?....for what...yer tootsies...food, for what.....
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Food.
The copper water tanks that were located next to the stove most times had a spigot! "In the past, tanks like this would be connected to a heat-exchanger in the stove and a day's cooking would produce a nice quantity of hot water for the household."
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in that case...its a sort of oven....or maybe a bread proofer....
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And...in the past you would even make yogurt in items like this. You could also can preserves in extremely hot water!
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I am thinking this may be more on the order of heating water for baths !! Would sit on top of a heating unit, probably coal burner of some sort and the hinged lid opened to dip water out !! Like you see in all the western movies where hot water was poured into the tub !! If at some of the places where mineral/spring water was used the pipe at the top was probably hooked up to fill it with a hose/pipe in some way !!
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that was my initial thought...in my first post....i don,t see it being part of a stove...not with that hinged lid....any stoves i,ve seen and worked with..the hot water tank...is sealed..and water is drawn off via a tap..
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Almost reminds me of something from a Depression era soup kitchen.
(http://www.folksong.org.nz/down_on_my_luck/soup-kitchen.jpg)
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that was my initial thought...in my first post....i don,t see it being part of a stove...not with that hinged lid....any stoves i,ve seen and worked with..the hot water tank...is sealed..and water is drawn off via a tap..
I think it too big for a stove !!
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What does the inside look like? I thought maybe the back would fill up with hot water and keep food like buns warm.
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Old time wood burning cast iron cook stoves had 3 ways of heating water and which evolved in the sequence of:
1st - the teakettle
2nd – built-in water reservoir
3rd – heat exchanger pipes in firebox connected to an external water storage tank.
The built-in water reservoir was usually an “option” that attached to the right-hand side of the oven and could be ordered/purchased with the stove.
Said cook stoves have an “oven heating” damper (flopper-do) that is situated across the top left corner of the oven (next to the firebox). When flipped to the “down” position it permits the hot air/smoke to flow across the top left-side of the oven compartment then up n’ out the flue pipe.
When flipped to the “up” position it forces the hot air/smoke to flow down the left-side of the oven compartment, then underneath it, then up the right-side of the oven compartment (and the left-side of covered “copper” water container), then back across the top of the oven compartment and then up n’ out the flue pipe.
Thus the wood burning cook stove had a “convection” baking oven. And like now days, if one is not going to do any baking then don’t turn the oven “on” by turning the flopper-do to the “up” position. And you DON'T try to start a fire in the firebox if the flopper-do is in the “up” position.
Anyway, if the cook stove had a built-in water reservoir then the oven had to be turned “on” to heat the water. And because of the smoke, soot and ash said reservoir contained a covered “copper” container for the water. The water had to be poured into and dipper’ed out of said container.
The following picture is of the Magee Grand cook stove which I completely refurbished and enjoyed having for a few short years.
And this is a “link” to a different model Magee which has a “gas burner” option, to wit:
http://www.goodtimestove.com/component/virtuemart/current-inventory-of-all-antique-stoves-for-heating-cooking/current-inventory-of-all-kitchen-cook-stoves-for-sale/magee-grand-wood-coal-cook-range-with-a-gas-side-car-detail?Itemid=0 (http://www.goodtimestove.com/component/virtuemart/current-inventory-of-all-antique-stoves-for-heating-cooking/current-inventory-of-all-kitchen-cook-stoves-for-sale/magee-grand-wood-coal-cook-range-with-a-gas-side-car-detail?Itemid=0)
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all this conjecture....its this,that,....maybe if we got pics of the interior,and different views...we could then make a more informed guess....
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See Attached. Sorry it took so long.
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from the looks of that bottom its been suspended over an open fire,..which indicates that it has been used as A....Boiler,B....Oven...
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I have seen similar "Moonshine" type of equipment. But Never that big. Do you think that's a possibility?
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i,m not too well clued in about moonshine...only moonshine i know is Belladonna ...think maybe Cogar...might know...he strikes me as the kinda guy that would know a thing or two about it..... ;D
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Square containers with attached covers are not normally used for cooking.
And soldered joints really shouldn't be subjected to the direct heat or flames of an open fire.
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Looking @ this item , I'd give a guess that it was used for a rather tidy & 'grown-up' version of a 'moonshine' still , valmont325 .
This copper pot is indeed like (in size & shape) many that were used for submersing the copper coil(s) of the output side of a boiler (with the 'goods' inside) .... I'd further guess that it was once fitted with a wooden 'plug' -in the protruding pipe- that would serve to separate the inlet & outlet side of the coils (to make it neat , tight & more functionally 'clean') .
I'd suggest looking real close @ the edges where the soldered portion (with the 'vent') is attached , so as to try to determine if this was machine-rolled , or hand-formed ... many folks were very adapt @ making stills & coppercraft (esp. in Franklin County , 1920's - 1930's) !
As with what cogar posted ... soldered-joint copper needs a fair bit of silver within the alloy of the solder to stay alloyed (bonded) , in the event that the copper item is used over heated burners , fire & etc . .... not impossible that yours was used/constructed in this manner , though !