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Title: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 15, 2013, 02:40:51 AM
hi all

i have opportunity to buy 2 different silver coin lot,
1 lot contain Silver Rubels from the years: 1780,1814,1822,1824,1830,1835,1836,1841,1847,1851,1878, 1886,1893,1894, 1896,1897,1898,1899,1913,1921,1924 (you can see in the 2 first pictureS)

2 lot contain: 53 US silver coins: 5 cent (17), 10 cent (1), 25 cent (35) as u can see in the 2 other picture.

what u think this lots worth?

i know is hard to say from just looking at the pictures but hope u can advice me.

thanks.
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: Ipcress on October 15, 2013, 04:06:26 AM
The first lot should cost a small fortune ! How much are they asking ?

The grading on coins is massively important and something like the 1896 rouble could vary $80 and more depending on condition
The 1893 looks in good condition and maybe worth about $100-120 on it's own.
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 15, 2013, 05:26:48 AM
hi the first lot is the Silver Rubels they asking 600-670$ for all the Silver Rubels.


when u say "The first lot should cost a small fortune" i think u mean to the cent coin lot, did u?
and they asking about this lot 25-35$ for all the cents.

thanks.


Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: bigwull on October 15, 2013, 06:54:01 AM
I think he meant the first lot....would cost a small fortune...a small fortune in UK term ..is,nt $25/30,.for if you are getting the cents for...that amount...you should be biting the sellers hand off....not dithering...will I ..won,t I....as for the rubles...if he is correct with his valuation for 1 coin..and from his past posts he is rarely wrong....then..you should...be getting your purse out......
my own view is a little less encouraging....i,m always dubious of sellers selling...things for much less than they are worth....but that,s just me....
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 15, 2013, 08:29:23 AM
what u mean "nt $25/30" ??

thanks
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: bigwull on October 15, 2013, 10:16:03 AM
$25/30.....is peanuts....$600...is a small fortune....that,s what he means
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: Ipcress on October 15, 2013, 11:00:42 AM
Yeah. The roubles are worth several times that estimate.

You see the second picture for the roubles ? Named " 1.jpg " ? There's a small coin on the left. Can you ask them for a better image of that coin ?
Might be a 25 kopek



* edit. I meant " better " image.
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: mart on October 15, 2013, 11:09:08 AM
I would concentrate on lot 1,, don`t see much in lot 2 !!
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 15, 2013, 11:24:46 AM
hi yes there in the rubels lot also also  one coin 50 Kopek,and one 25 Kopek,
good eyes :)
is kopek worth something?
and mart i am agree with u!!!

thanks.
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: bigwull on October 15, 2013, 12:11:26 PM
50 kopek....look here

http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Russia-50-Kopeks-1913-/101998261
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 15, 2013, 12:19:32 PM
oh ok nice.
if i will sell each coin for this price i can make a nice profit ;P
thanks.

Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: bigwull on October 15, 2013, 12:36:51 PM
As long as you are not to greedy...and looking for the maximum..on each...then there is a good opportunity..here.. ..to make a tidy profit....which can help you finance the next deal...
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 15, 2013, 12:43:00 PM
sure not greedy!!!
how u think should i sell it as a lot or each  coin for it self?

thanks.

Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: Ipcress on October 15, 2013, 01:11:56 PM
oh ok nice.
if i will sell each coin for this price i can make a nice profit ;P
thanks.



Art, is this an auction or retail outlet ? $600 for that lot is a bargain.

The kopeks appear to be mid 19th. Also depends what condition the 18th century rouble is in but at $600 i'd be biting their hand off !!!
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 15, 2013, 01:19:42 PM
is auction  and the starting price is 500$ so i thinking to go up to 600-670.

how much u think i should go if still i want to make a profit.

thanks
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: bigwull on October 15, 2013, 01:49:27 PM
An Auction.....at the beginning of this topic the implication was ...you could get these at $600....but...as its an auction,....this is a different kettle of fish....everything will depend on who wants them the most...and...how much profit they will be happy with....there,s no point on going out on a limb....if the price soars past your expected budget....if you did get them for say $675...+ commission...then there is every chance you,ll still make money...but...from where i,m sitting...i think they,ll go higher....
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: mart on October 15, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
Well,, at a minimum you will be investing $500. !! And may take time for you to resell them !! Just decide how much you can afford to invest and for how long !! Then set that as a limit and sit on your hands if it goes over that amount !!
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 16, 2013, 12:57:54 AM
well i have not problem with time.

but i will go up to 600-650 is mean that i will have to pay include fee 745 +-

thanks.
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: mart on October 16, 2013, 06:11:27 AM
All I am saying is don`t get caught up in the auction and spend more than its worth to re-sell !!  You have to figure your time to see if you profit from it !!  Its not all just dollars and cents !! 
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 16, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
yea u are correct

I will stay with both leg on earth  ; :)

thanks
 
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: mart on October 16, 2013, 10:13:08 AM
Excellent !! 
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 19, 2013, 03:04:27 AM
hi  the Auction is tomorrow and i got my eyes on 1 more lot
this lot contain: Silver coins, Germany, 1 Mark 1875, 5 Mark 1875, 2 Mark 1906, 3 Mark 1913, 1914, 1/2 Mark 1915, 1917, 3 Mark 1928, Dinkelsbuehl 3 Mark 1927, Kaiser Heinrich.

i think i will go up to 250$ include tax is will be 307$
do u think is worth it?

thanks.
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: Ipcress on October 19, 2013, 03:50:55 AM
Nice lot, though i think most of the potential value is in the Dinkelsbuhl mark. However, i prefer the Russian lot and think it's both nicer and potentially worth more in relation to it's estimate.
A few of the coins in this lot look to be in lower grades.
The Dinkelsbuhl looks slightly discoloured so i would treat it with caution or ask someone's opinion. There will be fakes around.

If the Russian lot is first, i would concentrate on that and bid a little higher than you intended to ( if you're thinking of bidding on both that and this German lot )
If this lot is first then maybe have a bid but don't go over the estimate. You can then bid more on the Russian lot.
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: mart on October 19, 2013, 07:03:54 PM
I would rather have the Russian lot than the other two !!
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 19, 2013, 10:31:45 PM
HI,
well yes i also prefer the Russian lot.
and i will save the money for it.  ;D

i will let u know if i won in any lot.

thanks all for helping.
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 20, 2013, 10:30:59 AM
well the rubels lot sold for 4000$ not include 19% tax  ;D

Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: Ipcress on October 20, 2013, 12:21:03 PM
Thought as much !!!

It did look like a very low estimate.
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 20, 2013, 12:25:25 PM
and i had a dreams to buy it   ::)


thanks a lot.

Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: bigwull on October 20, 2013, 01:13:18 PM
don,t feel too downhearted....many of us have been there.....
Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: artx on October 20, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
YEP that truth,if we think about it i save my 800$ :)


Title: Re: silver coin lot
Post by: mart on October 20, 2013, 02:09:53 PM
Sorry Artx !!  Yep !!  Been there,,done that !!