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Title: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: frogpatch on November 13, 2013, 01:52:20 PM
I bought these three little fishes with an attached bobber at a sale for a dollar. A woman was closing down a roadside farm stand and had it as a decoration. The red and white bobber is not real to me. It does not have the wire guides for the line. Was this made in China in the past couple years or made as a decoration by someone here decades ago or somewhere else. The rope looks old as do the wires that hold it together. The fish were painted on old wood I think although it might have gotten that way from being outside. What do you think? There are a lot of tourist shops around here that sell all kind of faux nautical and fishing stuff. I just bought it to hang out on the porch.
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: bigwull on November 13, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
Can,t see them being Chinese...they don,t have any fish in their rivers...cos they are like.toxic soup....so i,m going to plump for local...
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: frogpatch on November 13, 2013, 02:04:54 PM
Here are two more. In the one picture you can see the old sea and sand worn Roses Lime Juice bottle that Bigwull tossed over the side of the old British sailing vessel.
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: KC on November 13, 2013, 02:08:48 PM
I can't tell if they are "newer" art that has been purposely weathered or "older" folk art.

Either way, I like it!  Like your little niche in the corner as well!

This type of art is highly pinned on Pinterest and loved!!!  (I am one of those that loves to pin these type of looks/items as well.)  Over the past 2 years older ocean/water related items have taken an upturn in interest.

This would sell on Etsy easy for $10 - $15!!!  Great buy!
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Post by: bigwull on November 13, 2013, 02:10:40 PM
Roses Lime Juice Cordial...with Gordons Gin...and crushed ice...great on a hot day....it fare maks yer cheeks suck in... ;D
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: frogpatch on November 13, 2013, 02:17:57 PM
I like it with Vodka on the rocks. Gimlet they call it. It was originally made to prevent scurvy on ships. That is actually where I believe that bottle came from. It was found by the ocean. I posted it last year on here. It dates from 1900. I have one more pic here.
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: mart on November 13, 2013, 02:56:15 PM
Neat find whatever it is !! It would take a few years to get that much weathering !! I would call it Folk Art !!
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: Rauville on November 13, 2013, 03:38:34 PM
I used to occupy some of my spare time making whimsical wooden fish spearing decoys, depicting fish with human faces, etc. I would stamp my initials and date on them, paint and distress them, and sell them as modern folk art pieces. Most of the time I had to convince a buyer that I had made them, and that they were not old. I finally decided to quit when I attended a “vetted antique show” and saw some of my decoys being represented as original folk art and priced in the hundreds!
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: KC on November 13, 2013, 03:52:46 PM
Apparently you did too good of job Rauville!  :)
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: bigwull on November 13, 2013, 04:35:16 PM
Well, i hope i have the same kind of luck with my wooden cannons...will post pics tomorrow of the latest pair.....they have 25in... oak barrels,..and are sleeved with 22mm pipe,the carriage is oak,..and the total legth is 30in,..there a place in Texas that makes wooden ones...but their prices start at $2200...and although they look good..they don,t fire...
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: mart on November 13, 2013, 06:34:52 PM
I used to occupy some of my spare time making whimsical wooden fish spearing decoys, depicting fish with human faces, etc. I would stamp my initials and date on them, paint and distress them, and sell them as modern folk art pieces. Most of the time I had to convince a buyer that I had made them, and that they were not old. I finally decided to quit when I attended a “vetted antique show” and saw some of my decoys being represented as original folk art and priced in the hundreds!

Why quit Rauville ?? They were original,,your designs,, and assuming you are not a schooled artist,, it would be folk art !! Folk art is being produced as we speak !! It doesn`t have to be old !! Only problem you had was in not getting the same money they did !! I have done several folk art paintings one of which did quite well at a juried show here !! Still it was just folk art because I am self taught !!
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: bigwull on November 13, 2013, 06:40:19 PM
but..are you any good at painting walls ....for if you are............
.if your ever thinking of a holiday in Scotland...well, we have a spare guest room... ;D
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: icedgold10 on November 13, 2013, 07:35:07 PM
I'm thinking they are old worn from the sea.  I live in Maine and they look much like the wood that washes up here.  The lines are a telling sign of age in the wood.  They don't look created by anything other than the sea. 
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Post by: bigwull on November 13, 2013, 07:38:24 PM
Maine....Mmm....The Walking Dude state..... ;D
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Post by: icedgold10 on November 13, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Walking Dude State??????  Don't get it???
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: mart on November 13, 2013, 08:27:15 PM
but..are you any good at painting walls ....for if you are............
.if your ever thinking of a holiday in Scotland...well, we have a spare guest room... ;D

I am the best you have ever seen at painting walls !! Also do faux finishing and murals !! Problem is,, I hate flying !!  But if you ever move to Texas,,,,!!!!
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: bigwull on November 14, 2013, 03:43:24 AM
Well that puts paid to that idea....and as Avril suffers from Menieres Disease....then  i,m afraid the only way we,d ever get to Texas...would either be by boat.....and shanks,s pony.... ;D
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: cogar on November 14, 2013, 04:07:18 AM
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The red and white bobber is not real to me. It does not have the wire guides for the line.


The bobber is original and could date back to at least the 50's because I''ve used them and that's the way they were made before they made the spring loaded "pushbutton" with the wire hook.

The way it is shown in the picture is not the intended way or the best way to use it.

To affix it to your line you would just twist a "loop" in the line and put one end of the dowel thru it ..... and then twist another "loop" and put it on the other end of the dowel and snug it up. That way you could change the "depth" of your hook or take it off line anytime you wanted to.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: wendy177 on November 14, 2013, 07:14:10 AM
Yup they look to be upcycled  local folk art made to sell at say a craft fair   :D  really cute !! 
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: frogpatch on November 14, 2013, 12:23:33 PM
Thanks for all your input. I think Wendy is right. Made as a decorative item from old wood and parts. I have a collection of vintage fishing items and I might display it there just for effect. I just picked up another wood rod which I am going to post as soon as I can get all my work caught up.

FYI Old wood elongated bobbers that are hand painted in unusual colors are extremely expensive collectibles. 
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: mart on November 14, 2013, 01:31:49 PM
No kidding ?? Something else I will have to look for !!
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: bigwull on November 14, 2013, 02:24:27 PM
As you get older...you,re supposed to start getting rid of all that old junk....but you....you want more.... :D
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: sugarcube5419 on November 14, 2013, 02:32:47 PM
I know you're talking fishing lures but may I ask what the bottle is on the shelf?
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: mart on November 14, 2013, 07:53:49 PM
Read page 1 Sugarcube !!  ;D  He said its one of Bigwull`s throw-a-ways !! 
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: sugarcube5419 on November 14, 2013, 08:32:30 PM
my bad, teach me to just look at the pictures  thanks mart
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: ghopper1924 on November 15, 2013, 04:38:55 PM
[Gimlet they call it. [/quote]

Gimlet, son of Groin?
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: bigwull on November 15, 2013, 06:30:41 PM
[Gimlet they call it.

Gimlet, son of Groin?
[/quote]Gimlet..my arse...a gimlet,s a gin or vodka /& lime juice cocktail, or a small tool for boring into wood without splitting...
as if you did,nt know.....
and this gopher....is without looking at google...
bifur bofur bombur
dori ori nori
oin gloin
balin dwalin
fili kili
and..last but not least..Thorin Oakenshield....
 ;D
would you like me to go on....
three rings for the elven kings under the sky
seven for the dwarf lords in their halls of stone,
nine for the motal men doomed to die....
one for the dark lord on his dark throne
in the land of Mordor....
where the shadows lie
one ring to rule them all
one ring to find them
one ring to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them
In the land of Mordor
where the shadows lie

and the above has been with me for the past 40 odd years....sad old booger that i am....some people re-read the bible..well,this is my bible.... ;D


Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: ghopper1924 on November 16, 2013, 07:43:07 AM
Had enough of LOTR? Then try Bored of the Rings. You'll get the Gimlet reference, and it has only a passing relationship to alcohol.
Title: Re: Folk Art Fish or Fake Art Fish?
Post by: bigwull on November 16, 2013, 08:07:48 AM
I,ll give Bored a try....and if Mrs ghopper has read 50 shades of,...and would like an alternative...she can get ..50 Sheds of Gray...its hilarious...just ask Sapphire... ;D