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Title: Any info on this piece?
Post by: Jimmy86gti on November 15, 2013, 04:36:46 PM
Hello I've had this for a while and I was wondering its value, it's stamped schwarzburger wurkstatten porzillin on the bottom and has a blue fox, I'll post pics if I can,thanks in advanced,jimmy
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: ghopper1924 on November 15, 2013, 04:45:41 PM
"schwarzburger wurkstatten porzillin"

Porcelain from the art deco era ca. 1920s-30s.

A quick search on e-bay using the above keywords reveals alot of expensive items.  Definitely worth spending some time on research!
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: bigwull on November 15, 2013, 06:06:04 PM
Its at times like this when translation of German words into English can be hilarious....Schwar zburger..becomes Blackburger....whic h brings to memory the hilarious translation of Gen, Norman Schwarzkopf...into English....Gen Norman Blackhead...also known as a zit.... ::)
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: mart on November 15, 2013, 09:21:27 PM
http://www.porcelainbiz.com/schwarzburg.htm
Little info here and some examples of their work !! If this is one of the early pieces you might have a good one !! They employed the finest artists !! I will try to find more on them tomorrow !!
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: cogar on November 16, 2013, 03:52:13 AM
And why is that junction box light fixture bracket glued to the bottom of it?

to wit ..........


(http://hostedmedia.reimanpub.com/TFH/Step-By-Step/FH12JUN_REPFIX_05.JPG)
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: bigwull on November 16, 2013, 04:57:19 AM
maybe someone contemplated making it into a lamp...or thats whats holding the base together....either way..this will affect its value as a buyer would be put off by this...as they would suspect the worse..i.e. its been damaged..and this has been glued on to strengthen the base
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: mart on November 16, 2013, 09:08:43 AM
Was wondering about that too !! Unless it had a base of some sort !!
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: bigwull on November 16, 2013, 09:33:26 AM
you may well be right Mart,..that hole in the strap is threaded,...which indicates that it may have been bolted to a base at some point,...perhaps to stop anyone half inching  it... ;D.....which translates into.."if its not bolted down its coming with me"
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: mart on November 16, 2013, 02:19:11 PM
Is this piece marked somewhere other than the bottom ?? I am not seeing the marks you said it had !!  Part of what is there is covered up !!!
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: bigwull on November 16, 2013, 02:41:54 PM
i can see the tail end of schwarzburg...but there is no er on the end....furthermore the marlk for this porcelain..is a running fox....is your fox running....
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: mart on November 16, 2013, 02:44:42 PM
That's all I can see Wullie !! The same as you !!
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: cogar on November 17, 2013, 05:20:03 AM
it may have been bolted to a base at some point,...perhaps to stop anyone half inching  it... ;D.....

Good thinking Bigwull,  ;D ;D all you would need is a piece of this threaded pipe (used in lamps) because that bracket hole is a "special" thread size.  

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Lamp-parts-36-all-thread-pipe-1-4-IPS-1-2-OD-TG-306-/00/s/MTA2OVgxNjAw/$(KGrHqZHJDoFBPWS(O12BQeFGT1D+Q~~60_35.JPG)
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: KC on November 17, 2013, 06:05:20 PM
Nudes were very popular in the early 1900's.  The maker you cited is one that does/did high quality work.  I am scratching my head on this one...because the mark doesn't fit...and the quality is questionable (from the picture?)  Maybe a better close up of the mark (and right side up).

As for the metal piece on the bottom....if you remember the mantel sets were very popular during the heyday of these items and it could have been mounted next to a clock or part of a candelabra set.
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: bigwull on November 17, 2013, 06:19:32 PM
a Garniture...is the word you may have been looking for....oops..time i was awa tae the bog.... ;D
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: Jimmy86gti on November 20, 2013, 12:56:31 PM
Thanks for all the replies!
Title: Re: Any info on this piece?
Post by: KC on November 20, 2013, 01:10:45 PM
Actually Wullie, that is exactly what I was searching for...but the archives of my mind weren't working well!  :)  Thanks you!!