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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: gerspee on December 13, 2013, 07:56:48 AM
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Very nice vase and signed Daum Nancy . And found very reasonably priced so better . But is it a copy or just a early Daum vase ?
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Looks too crude to me, in design, shape and mark.
" Arbres En Hiver " is the pattern. Have a google.
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Thanks and had a look with the name off the design and Daum . Difficult to see and copies are mostly just pressed glass but this one looks to be etched on the surface .So more en expensive to make as a fraud Daum vase ? Any idea where to find copies on the net ?
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...Any idea where to find copies on the net ?
Here's one source: http://www.galle-art-glass.com/daum-nancy-glassware/ (http://www.galle-art-glass.com/daum-nancy-glassware/)
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This looks to be molded into the glass,, is it ?? Or just etched on surface ??
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To me it looks with a magnifier glass that the its etched from the white who is the thickest to the glass itself .
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So its not raised above the surrounding glass ?? Thought it looked like a shadow around the edge !!
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Yes youre right about that . Looks like different layers off glass then edged to the design . So around 4 layers and colours starting with the white.grey what you see on the bottom picture .
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Thanks and had a look with the name off the design and Daum . Difficult to see and copies are mostly just pressed glass but this one looks to be etched on the surface .So more en expensive to make as a fraud Daum vase ? Any idea where to find copies on the net ?
But compare the quality of the detail on this and known originals. The signature also appears to have been applied with a catapult.
Look at the quality here, that distinctive mottled effect, also the interior.
(http://p1.la-img.com/454/46362/21094464_2_x.jpg)
Another here. The subtle detail in the trunks and the trees in the background
http://p2.la-img.com/454/27209/10279138_1_x.jpg (http://p2.la-img.com/454/27209/10279138_1_x.jpg)
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Yes youre right about that . Looks like different layers off glass then edged to the design . So around 4 layers and colours starting with the white.grey what you see on the bottom picture .
I meant the signature !! Not the design !!
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Signature is the top off the layer so the black part off the layers
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http://www.daumnancyantiques.com/Daum_Nancy.html
Try here for authentication !!
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Yes I going to do that tomorrow and the must be able to tell me more or not off course .
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(http://www.tinyesveld.com/public/images/ccc.jpg)
Fake Gallé vase. Similar clumsy layered look.
Daum reproductions
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/11305476/Daum_Nancy_Glass_Bowl_Vase_Magnificent/showimage.html (http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/11305476/Daum_Nancy_Glass_Bowl_Vase_Magnificent/showimage.html)
Reference on Google Books. Some good images too.
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=elaOzWWuc2YC&pg=PT366&lpg=PT366&dq=chinese+daum+nancy+fakes&source=bl&ots=upXIXz5FQ0&sig=YW3g4IWPt6GJTSKTsd94rOYxTQg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DHmrUr-EL-iS7AaKy4HADw&ved=0CGEQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=daum%20nancy%20&f=false (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=elaOzWWuc2YC&pg=PT366&lpg=PT366&dq=chinese+daum+nancy+fakes&source=bl&ots=upXIXz5FQ0&sig=YW3g4IWPt6GJTSKTsd94rOYxTQg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=DHmrUr-EL-iS7AaKy4HADw&ved=0CGEQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=daum%20nancy%20&f=false)
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There's a lot info to be found but still no vase seen as a Daum copy that looks like this one with the way the decoration has been done . So better to mail the expert tomorrow as given in the forum . Keep you informed off course .
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I've linked to Daum copies. They're also easily searched for online.
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Link ??
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http://www.realorrepro.com/article/New-cameo-glass-in-old-designs
The bottom of this vase kept bugging me !! Scroll down and read about the pontil mark,,!!
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Yeah, i linked to the same info earlier, Mart.
Everything about that vase says fake / copy to me.
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Above you said you did but I didn`t see it,, anyway I figured this was the site you intended !!
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Above you said you did but I didn`t see it,, anyway I figured this was the site you intended !!
What you've linked to is a concise article based on the book i linked to. Yours probably easier to see
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Guess I just missed yours !!
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Well thanks to all the tips I have found a similar way off this etching on a vase . Made in Romania so nice but not my next payment on my holiday next year . But cheap enough to make some euro's again when sold again ;D It costed me just the price off a litre off petrol so easy to enjoy it for a while
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Glad of that !! So no loss and you make a bit !! Keep on looking,,might get that vacation yet !!