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Title: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 16, 2014, 06:24:01 PM
I was given this at a yard sale this summer because the woman said she didn't feel right selling Jesus.  I think he is bronze? brass??  On the back it has engraved  CFXXII  & Germany.  He is 9" tall.  Anyone know what the marking means?  other than 22?
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: greenacres on January 16, 2014, 06:53:56 PM
162 if I'm right about the letters CFXXII.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 16, 2014, 07:03:04 PM
Do you know what that would indicate?  I wasn't thinking that way.  I was thinking CF stood for crucifix.  lol  Although th CF is above the numerals???  Just looked it up  no F.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 16, 2014, 07:15:48 PM
methiks this is only one half of the crucifix...
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: Dogaman on January 16, 2014, 07:26:45 PM
I agree with Wull. The holes on the backs of the hands and between the shoulder blades indicate that it was removed from the cross.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 16, 2014, 07:38:45 PM
It for sure was attached to a cross before but I am stumped by the marks???  Does it pertain to age?  BTW I got the best half.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: Rauville on January 16, 2014, 07:49:39 PM
How close would XXII be in centimeters when converted from inches?
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 16, 2014, 07:51:13 PM
How close would XXII be in centimeters when converted from inches?
8"
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: Dogaman on January 16, 2014, 07:51:56 PM
Iced,

Could it be "CE" and not "CF"? CE could mean "Common Era" or, in other words, "AD".  Just following leads.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 16, 2014, 07:56:48 PM
22cm = 8.66141732 inches...to be exact
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: Dogaman on January 16, 2014, 07:59:22 PM
22mm = 0.866142 inches
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 16, 2014, 08:21:13 PM
CF for sure.    You guys working for the IRS with those conversions.  lol ;D
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 16, 2014, 08:26:22 PM
22mm = 0.866142 inches
you,d better see Mart ..for a pair of $1 cheaters....22mm is a far cry from 22cm....
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 16, 2014, 08:28:10 PM
CF for sure.    You guys working for the IRS with those conversions.  lol ;D
if that was the case then it would be 19 to him and 1 to you..... ;D
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: Dogaman on January 16, 2014, 08:30:11 PM
"CF" is an abbreviation for "Christian Fellowship"; maybe "Catholic Fellowship"?
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: Dogaman on January 16, 2014, 08:32:07 PM
Wull,

Oops; that's what I get for scanning the original post.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: greenacres on January 16, 2014, 09:02:32 PM
When I looked up roman numerals F was forty. XX=20 C =100 and ll means 2
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 16, 2014, 09:09:51 PM
When I looked up roman numerals F was forty. XX=20 C =100 and ll means 2
well over here F stands for Freddy, and C for Charlie.... ;D.....
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: mart on January 16, 2014, 09:13:08 PM
CFX= Crucifix 12 If it had a cross and was meant for export could have been marked  for "12 in. Crucifix" with the cross !! So whole set would have been 12 in. total !!  Or if it were made in different sizes they would be marked  with what it is and the size by the maker !!
                                                                                                                                            
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: greenacres on January 16, 2014, 09:13:32 PM
Freddie Krueger?  Know him well! ;D
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 16, 2014, 09:27:51 PM
CFX= Crucifix 12 If it had a cross and was meant for export could have been marked  for "12 in. Crucifix" with the cross !! So whole set would have been 12 in. total !!  Or if it were made in different sizes they would be marked  with what it is and the size by the maker !!
                                                                                                                                            
what do ya mean if it had a cross...without the twa bits of wid... its no a crucifix...
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 16, 2014, 09:29:50 PM
Freddie Krueger?  Know him well! ;D
F & C to FK....interesting.. ...
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: mart on January 16, 2014, 09:38:35 PM
CFX= Crucifix 12 If it had a cross and was meant for export could have been marked  for "12 in. Crucifix" with the cross !! So whole set would have been 12 in. total !!  Or if it were made in different sizes they would be marked  with what it is and the size by the maker !!

Was just talking Wullie,, I think it just a simple way of marking what goes with what !! May have had 10, 12 and 14 inch sets !!  Made in Italy !!
                                                                                                                                            
what do ya mean if it had a cross...without the twa bits of wid... its no a crucifix...
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: cogar on January 17, 2014, 04:25:39 AM
The CFXXII is a Part #, ...... me thinks.

This looks to be same design so maybe this one is marked with a CFXXI or a CFXXIII ..... to wit:

(http://img0.etsystatic.com/011/0/6510696/il_570xN.435909700_lae8.jpg)

http://www.etsy.com/dk-en/listing/125885971/brass-crucifix-thin-memorial-cross (http://www.etsy.com/dk-en/listing/125885971/brass-crucifix-thin-memorial-cross)
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 17, 2014, 05:38:45 AM
that,s close enough for me....but we,ll wait an see wit doubtful Dinah has to say..... ;D
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 17, 2014, 09:26:11 PM
Well if he was on a skinny cross like that no wonder he came off.  He probably jumped... Where the C & the F both have dots after them probably company makers initials and then the XXII the part number.  Would make sense.  Was hoping it would be a bit more exciting than that though.  Bummer.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: cogar on January 18, 2014, 04:38:17 AM
Was hoping it would be a bit more exciting than that though.  Bummer.

HA, you give up too easy and lose money in doing so. ;D ;D

That is a great piece for, ... uh, ... whatta ya'll call it, .... "repurposing".

Find something appropiate in your collection, other than a cross, say a picture, a plaque, etc., ..... and attach it to the front of it ...... and I'll guarantee you someone will buy it.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 18, 2014, 08:35:27 AM
as cogar says...stick him on something different and he,ll fly...or i can make you a wooden cross from cedar,and you can stick him on that,as for...it being a bummer,...that conjures up many different meanings over here,..."heid bummer"....or "air raid siren".....or a braggard... ;)
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: frogpatch on January 18, 2014, 01:00:03 PM
I would find some weathered old wood and make a cross and put him there. Then I would hang it up. If you are not Christian, or a non symbolic Christian, give it to a Catholic, Orthodox or Lutheran church and they can make use of it. 
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 18, 2014, 02:25:05 PM
This is why I like this site.  Shows me where I miss the obvious.  I have a couple ideas for him now.  Just trying to hunt down part B. 
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 18, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
What if I do something like this with it?
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 18, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
bump
 ;D
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: Rauville on January 18, 2014, 09:20:59 PM
Myself, I'd rather see a cross than a board.
Just a couple nice straight rustic branches with hewn ends, mounted together would work.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: cogar on January 19, 2014, 04:50:03 AM
Mounting it on a Cross is just too "vanillany" in my opinion because there are zillions of them out there. I still ascribe to the "Odd n' Different" rule.

I was thinking more of something like this, to wit:

(http://ak3.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/2526086/preview/stock-footage-christ-the-redeemer-statue-in-rio-de-janeiro-in-brazil.jpg)
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: mart on January 19, 2014, 08:36:49 AM
It needs the cross !!
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 19, 2014, 09:10:13 AM
What if I do something like this with it?
..it looks like the dogs dinner....and as for cogars..thoughts..w ell..in this instance..he,s got the taste of an ingin...Christ was on a cross....not a plank of wood....
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: Rauville on January 19, 2014, 09:20:00 AM
What if I do something like this with it?
..it looks like the dogs dinner....and as for cogars..thoughts..w ell..in this instance..he,s got the taste of an ingin...Christ was on a cross....not a plank of wood....

I'm with Bigwull...
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/10121274 (http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/10121274)
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 19, 2014, 09:35:46 AM
Ok, he is off the wood..  Figuring out part B.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 19, 2014, 09:51:53 AM
Ok, he is off the wood..  Figuring out part B.
give me his dimensions, and i,ll make him a cross that befits him....and when you know who is found, they can make the journey together.... ;D
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 19, 2014, 04:44:08 PM
Ok, he is off the wood..  Figuring out part B.
give me his dimensions, and i,ll make him a cross that befits him....and when you know who is found, they can make the journey together.... ;D
That would be awesome!!!!  from head to toe 9",  fingertip to finger tip is 8".
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 19, 2014, 04:45:31 PM
It needs the cross !!
YES, MA'AM  !!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: bigwull on January 19, 2014, 05:26:10 PM
It needs the cross !!
take yer pick..... ;D.
Title: Re: Bronze German Crucifix CFXXII
Post by: icedgold10 on January 19, 2014, 05:41:30 PM
hahahahaha ;D  I think the buns belong to Mart.  She is in to bottoms I hear.