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Title: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 29, 2014, 08:23:43 AM
Nice and old and even the woodworm must be dead by now . But Africa is big so who is able to tell where in Africa this could be made and when maybe ? The shape and decoration must be able to pinpoint it a bit i hope .

Thanks
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: mart on January 29, 2014, 02:38:23 PM
http://www.lotusmasks.com/category/Styles-Types-African-Mask.html

You might try looking here !! I couldn`t get the site to open !!
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 29, 2014, 04:04:26 PM
Thanks and have a look tomorrow at it . Was able to open so must working okay .
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: mart on January 29, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
Do you have a shop ??
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 29, 2014, 04:48:34 PM
No . Just a nutty collector who also sells some off the bought items hopefully with some profit . And buying again and again off course . Just like antiques and older electronic equipment etcetera etcetera . But have some much to check and look at that I have to be living to at least a 150 years old  :) 
 
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: mart on January 29, 2014, 04:59:41 PM
Hope you make a profit too !! Good luck with your sales !!
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: Ipcress on January 29, 2014, 06:02:50 PM
Try Pacific island masks, too. New Guinea, Fiji etc. They have shell eyes and this doesn't look Nubian or African.
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: mart on January 29, 2014, 06:54:13 PM
Thanks and have a look tomorrow at it . Was able to open so must working okay .

I am on dial up so all sites do not cooperate for me !!  You find some odd items so thought you might have an antique or collectable shop !! But selling as independent is just as good and no overhead expenses !!
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: icedgold10 on January 29, 2014, 07:41:28 PM
That is a great piece!  Are you going to list it on Ebay?  If you do post the link.
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 30, 2014, 12:27:14 PM
Probably on e bay later but first I would like to have some similar masks to find for the price range to put it in. This is a difficult thing to price I think . And nosey as always  I do want to know as good as possible where and when made by what tribe  . But like the famous song from the 70ties : So much to do If I only had time only time ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToNK2-JuQMs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToNK2-JuQMs)

And here's my computer room just as a example . You don't want to see the rest off the house filled with the other collected stuff  ;)
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: Ipcress on January 30, 2014, 01:37:12 PM
WOW !!! Bric a brac in the house !!

Can i see that mauve and white jug on the second shelf in the top pic ?
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 30, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
You're very observant to see a probably English transfer printed Japanese marked ginger jar . There's also a blue and white one shelf higher without the lid and not marked . Make pictures tomorrow for you
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: mart on January 30, 2014, 05:05:43 PM
2nd pic,,lower rt. corner ?? Look like swans !! What are those or is that a mirror behind making it look like two ??
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 30, 2014, 05:20:33 PM
No there's 2 off them and there book supports and think myself there maybe from Indonesia and from before ww2 . Wood is tropical and heavy 
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 31, 2014, 02:01:52 AM
The suggestions where right and it is a ancestor mask from Papua New Guinea . So thanks . only have to find the possible age of it . I think it must be from end 19th to beginning 20th century compared to others I have seen ?
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: KC on January 31, 2014, 11:02:36 AM
Correct me if I am wrong...but is this even a mask?  From the looks of the back in the pic it is solid and not made in an actual mask form?  Could just be the pic!
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: KC on January 31, 2014, 11:08:42 AM
Mart, are you talking about what appears to be bookends that are either phoenix or pterodactyl?

Thank you for posting these pics.  I can now show the better half that there are others out there....   LOL
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 31, 2014, 11:38:39 AM
Yes you're right here and it's called a Ancestor mask but flat at the back to put in your house to be protected by your ancestors .  Like nowadays a picture off my mother in law in the front door will do the trick ? ;D
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 31, 2014, 11:50:01 AM
And here's some pictures off the jar Ipcress was asking for
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: Ipcress on January 31, 2014, 12:45:30 PM
This is the wrong one. I meant the one with the leaf motif. That's why i said jug, not jar. :)

That's Japanese, not English transfer printed. They copied some of our styles so they were popular for export. Looks like Mason's or other stoneware but it's definitely Japanese.
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on January 31, 2014, 12:53:17 PM
Thanks and did not know that about the Japanese copies so learnt again . The jug you mentioned is a Delft jug dated 1630 but I don't think it's the real . To perfect for his age .  Do have some real old Dutch but needs restoring .
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: mart on January 31, 2014, 04:35:25 PM
Mart, are you talking about what appears to be bookends that are either phoenix or pterodactyl?

Thank you for posting these pics.  I can now show the better half that there are others out there....   LOL

Yes KC !!  That it !! Couldn`t tell if it was bookends or had a mirror behind it and I was seeing a reflection !!  Didn`t enlarge it !!
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: Ipcress on January 31, 2014, 05:24:12 PM
Thanks and did not know that about the Japanese copies so learnt again . The jug you mentioned is a Delft jug dated 1630 but I don't think it's the real . To perfect for his age .  Do have some real old Dutch but needs restoring .

Could i see a better image though ?

Doesn't initially look like delft, either.
Title: Re: african mask from ?
Post by: gerspee on February 01, 2014, 04:16:01 AM
Here's  the Delft for you . Looks like Delfts 17th century but to perfect to be true I think .