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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: izabelle on February 11, 2014, 01:58:13 AM
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Hi all,
My parents have recently acquired this old wooden cart. There's no marking or branding anywhere on this, so i thought i'd try my luck online to see if anyone can give me more information/price.
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6457.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6453.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6453.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6453.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6455.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6454.jpg)
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There is no picture showing !! Make sure you give plenty of download time when posting pics !! Would help if you check the size to make sure they are not too big for this site !!
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That's not a typical Hay wagon. I suspect it was designed, to carry Horses. It has trace's of milk paint. so we can estimate it's age from 1900 thru the 1930's. Sear's & Roebuck sold wagon's as well from 1900 to the 1930's.
They were a Whooping $25.00 Dollars.
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Really cool wagon!
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What is your location ?? What is the approx. length of the cart ?? Looks lie it may have had a solid bottom that could be removed !!
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There is no picture showing !! Make sure you give plenty of download time when posting pics !! Would help if you check the size to make sure they are not too big for this site !!
Actually i did check the images sizes before posting as i RESIZED them to 1000px on the longest side...and as a JPG that's hardly 'too big'.
This was purchased in Victoria, Australia. it is 7 foot LONG and 4 food WIDE
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,Perhaps you took the pics with a phone which often are extremely large ?? Should have been easy to figure this out,, here we also used to have similar carts much longer than wide !! Used to haul cane from the field to the syrup mill !! I believe sugar cane has been grown there for a couple of hundred years has it not ??
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Nope, i am actually a professional photographer and deliberately wanted to post high resolution images so it helps with identification, etc.
Thanks for your help Dewain, my father will appreciate this info :)
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Because of the smooth "rounded" top member on each side ...... me thinks it was a "people hauling" wagon.
My first thought was it reminded me of those "prisoner" hauling carts like ya see in the movies ....... when they were hauling those "revolution" prisoners down the streets of Paris to the guillotine. ;D ;D
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Of course I have to put a spin on things....
Note the beautiful filigrees on the metal work. Not your normal "work wagon"! It looks as if it has a place for poles to fit in (such as a removable roof).
My first impression was it could have been a horse drawn hearse! The more primitive kinds that the coffin would slide in on! Is it long enough to hold a coffin? (So cogar it could still be a "people hauling" wagon!) :)
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Right on, KC, .... I had forgotten to mention that metalwork.
If it was all cleaned up, repaired and repainted it would make a fine "parade" wagon.
As long as no one mentions that it might have been a hearse, that is. ;D
Unless of course, a local mortuary used it for advertising their services.
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While it could have certainly done double duty on small farms it appears that the ironwork was below the wagon tongue !! Looks like something is missing from the front/top part !! Would have helped if we could see the entire wagon including the tongue to tell how it is made !! Getting pics in bits and pieces tells very little except that it is a wagon of some sort !!
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I've ' applauded ' Izabelle because someone smiting her after those three posts - ridiculous.
Nice wagon though.
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Izabelle, could you please post a complete side view picture of the wagon?
Do the sides fold down or are they stationary?
Two other kinds of wagons enter my mind on this one. 1) A pageant wagon (used for parades and grand happenings) or 2) Vendor's wagon (used for market - functional to hold fruits/veggies/ware and beautiful for display as well.
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Maybe it was used to transport wool?
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Would have been used for anything applicable !! Late 1800`s early 1900`s there were many small family farms in operation in Australia !! Would not have had a separate wagon for each use,,more than likely had one large and one smaller wagon !! At 4 ft wide and 7 ft long this would have been able to do it all !! Between the cane rows to harvest, used during shearing season, possibly as a hearse and for transporting to market !! Basically same as family farms here !!
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Have you contacted the http://museumvictoria.com.au/ (http://museumvictoria.com.au/)?
Just briefly glancing at the site, I see a wagon made in Victoria that was decorated with some fancy ironwork.
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Thankyou all for your responses, I will post a side view asap...funnily enough it looks the right size for a coffin...at 4 foot wide at the wheels its even narrower in side. Not wide enough for two people to sit next to each other. Unless they're very slim. And I sill contact museum vic!
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"A wagon (sometimes spelled 'waggon' in British and Commonwealth English) is a heavy four-wheeled vehicle pulled by draught animals, used for transporting goods, commodities, agricultural materials, supplies, and sometimes people".
More @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon)
Sorry but it would not let me post the jpg link for the picture. >:( >:(
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Believe you are referring to a leiterwagen, cogar. Just google that and look at pictures!
Izabelle, did you ever say if the sides fold down/move or are stationary?
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Believe you are referring to a leiterwagen, cogar.
Yup, that is what they called it at the Wikipedia link in my above post.
And given she said she was in Australia and the Wiki statement of origin stated "in British and Commonwealth English" ..... I assumed her's was also a leiterwagen,...... but a "fancy" painted one with square vertical ribs, cast-iron or strap-steel "scrollwork", etc.
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Hi all, here's some additional photos as requested.
none of the sides fold down only the front and rear parts.
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6462.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6459.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6460.jpg)
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g477/izabellerenee/IMG_6461.jpg)
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Now that is an elaborate built wagon for its time.
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What a beautiful piece of handiwork!!!