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Title: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: valmont325 on February 21, 2014, 10:32:41 AM
I was curious if anyone has seen something like this before. I am calling it a "Treenware Mixer"  but i do not know for sure exactly what it is, or if it is even an antique or perhaps something newly made to look old.  I know the glass container is old but as for the rest i am not sure.  It's about 18-19" Tall. and about a foot wide.

The mechanics are like a basic hand mixer, you turn the crank on top which works the gears and eventually makes the paddles in the glass jar move.


So any ideas? On age? Or what it is exactly?
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: greenacres on February 21, 2014, 11:06:18 AM
Does is say Treenware?
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: valmont325 on February 21, 2014, 11:10:51 AM
No.
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Post by: mart on February 21, 2014, 11:14:31 AM
Small glass container !!  Looks like a version of my Dazey churn !!  Maybe for goats milk !! Where did you get it ??
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Post by: cogar on February 21, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
It could either be a butter churn or a cream whip.
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: valmont325 on February 21, 2014, 11:17:27 AM
Small glass container !!  Looks like a version of my Dazey churn !!  Maybe for goats milk !! Where did you get it ??

At an antique shop.
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: cogar on February 21, 2014, 11:20:15 AM
HA, ya beat me Mart, I was looking for a picture ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: valmont325 on February 21, 2014, 11:23:03 AM
i had originaly thought of of those Daisey Churns but i am amazed at the size of this piece. And the fact it's all wood.
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: gg27 on February 21, 2014, 11:27:34 AM
Love it!! I collect treen & have never seen anything like it.  It's beautiful. 
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: cogar on February 21, 2014, 11:31:16 AM
HA, I just noticed it was all wood.

Me thinks it is a non-functioning "repo" facsimile of a butter churn that someone made as a "craft project".
 
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: valmont325 on February 21, 2014, 11:31:41 AM
Love it!! I collect treen & have never seen anything like it.  It's beautiful. 

Thank you, i thought so too!
But it's amazing because i do not see why someone would go through all that work to make the gears/cogs and all that just to make something mix.  Why not just take a spoon and stir whatever?

Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: cogar on February 21, 2014, 11:35:29 AM
It wasn't made to mix anything, .... it was made just for the fun of making it.

It doesn't look like the glass jar can be removed from it.
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: valmont325 on February 21, 2014, 11:37:46 AM
so upon research look what i came across...http://www.christies.com/lotFinder/lot_details.aspx?intObjectID=1925700
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: valmont325 on February 21, 2014, 11:45:21 AM
It wasn't made to mix anything, .... it was made just for the fun of making it.

It doesn't look like the glass jar can be removed from it.

Yes the Glass jar can be removed.
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: valmont325 on February 21, 2014, 12:13:56 PM
So now, after coming across that link i know that it's from the 19th century. but i am curious if this is a reproduction of one. Like i said, i know the glass itself is antique.
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: gg27 on February 21, 2014, 12:22:01 PM
So now, after coming across that link i know that it's from the 19th century. but i am curious if this is a reproduction of one. Like i said, i know the glass itself is antique.
Doesn't look like a repro to me, but then I'm just looking at pics of it.  Most of the treen I have is mid to late 19th C.  Most people don't understand that turned wood items were used in everyday life for everyday items.  Can you tell if it's made of boxwood? or?  GG
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: frogpatch on February 21, 2014, 01:53:16 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that is the real deal. To make that as a project would be insanely difficult, plus you would need another one to do it. If you already have one why copy it? I have had a lot of later 19th century and early 20th century turned wood items like spinning wheels and such. Everything about this looks real to me. Now you need to give it to me!  :D
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: mart on February 21, 2014, 03:21:51 PM
There is no doubt in my mind that is the real deal. To make that as a project would be insanely difficult, plus you would need another one to do it. If you already have one why copy it? I have had a lot of later 19th century and early 20th century turned wood items like spinning wheels and such. Everything about this looks real to me. Now you need to give it to me!  :D

Stand in line, Frogpatch !!
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: cogar on February 22, 2014, 05:19:16 AM
Now I agree it is the real deal as far as treen ware goes but I hardly think it would be insanely difficult to make one. It would be a whole lot easier to make than a spinning wheel. The only tricky part is to make sure one gets the “hole” pattern in the drive wheel correct so that the “gear” meshes.

I am still skeptical of its age and practicality for use as a butter churn. Butter churns took a beating (pun intended) because they were used once per week if not more often. That’s why they produced a zillion stoneware churns and dashers.

Anyway, I know for a fact that there were at least 2 “insanely” thinking wood lathe operators, to wit:

Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: valmont325 on February 22, 2014, 11:13:03 AM
Well thank you everyone, You are welcome to purchase it...for a pretty penny. Lots and lots of pennys =)

Again, thanks for the help everyone. I can always rely on all of you for help, and a good laugh.
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: KC on February 22, 2014, 11:40:10 AM
valmont, I would recommend that you take this somewhere for a "hands on" inspection and evaluation.

Just getting in on the end of this thread.  This does look authentic and these are few and far between!

Nice little piece there and a great conversation piece!  I do believe avid collectors (treenware, early kitchenware, unusual mechanisms, Victorian era, etc) would like this (as well as quite a few on this forum!)

Such a treat to see this!  Thanks for asking and sharing!
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: mart on February 22, 2014, 11:56:21 AM
I still think it may have been for goats milk !!
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Post by: cogar on February 22, 2014, 07:06:34 PM
I agree Mart, ...... cause unless you are milking a small herd of goats ya don't get much milk every day.
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: mart on February 22, 2014, 08:58:25 PM
Right Cogar !!  Not like the Jersey, Guernsey types we had !!
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: cogar on February 23, 2014, 04:03:52 AM
Mart, I'd tell you bout a nanny goat yanking one of my front baby toothers out but you probably wouldn't believe me. ;D
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Post by: mart on February 23, 2014, 04:41:05 PM
LOL !! Oh yes,, I would believe you !!
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Post by: cogar on February 24, 2014, 05:27:35 AM
Well then I’ll tell you, …. t’was when we lived on a farm, …. no electricity, hand crank well water, coal burning cook stove, gasoline Maytag, cellar house cooler, ….. all that good stuff ya know. I was bout 4 or 5 year old and my older brother told me to hold onto the horns of his nanny goat he was trying to milk. Well now, I was holding on tight to her horns and stretching to look over top of her head, apparently with my eyes wide open and my mouth agape, to watch what he was doing when that nanny goat reared her head backward real quick like and the tip of one of her horns caught that front toother and flipped it out quicker than a string on a door knob.   

Ah, the memories. And the kids now days think they are poor and discriminated against iffen they don’t have their own personal I-Phones.
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: mart on February 24, 2014, 01:32:30 PM
ROTFL !! Now why doesn`t that story surprise me ?? ;D
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Post by: KC on February 24, 2014, 01:38:03 PM
LOL!  Did the tooth fairy come on this one? 
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: mart on February 24, 2014, 01:57:47 PM
Hopefully he found it !! Might have got a dime for that one !!
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: cogar on February 24, 2014, 02:43:20 PM
Tooth fairy?????????????

During those 4 years living on the farm I don't recall Santa Claus ever coming around, let lone a Tooth Fairy slipping in.

I do remember one special Christmas though, it was because one of my older brothers showed up and brought with him a humungus big battery (probably a car battery) .... and he went upon the bank and cut a pine tree, stood it up in the corner of the big room, put a string of light bulbs on it and hooked them up to that big ole battery.

And lordy, lordy, ..... it lit up with all those purty colored lights which was an amazing sight for me to see.  ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: mart on February 25, 2014, 11:16:41 AM
Sound like the same experience my hubby had when electric lines were run out here !! Said the kids spent hours flipping the switch off and on !! 
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: KC on February 25, 2014, 11:03:51 PM
Great story cogar! 

We didn't have much growing up but we were happy and very easy to amuse with the simpler things in life!
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: mart on February 26, 2014, 07:54:49 AM
You think todays kids would understand that ??  They have no imagination !!
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: cogar on February 26, 2014, 01:05:06 PM
Abstract thinking is a prerequisite for one having an "imagination".

Diagnosed cases of autism has increased from 1 in 10,000 thirty (30) years ago to, i believe, 1 in 8 being the latest figure i seen.

The watching of children's TV programs during the past 25 years has not been conducive to the nurturing of the ability for one to engage in abstract thought .... primarily because said TV programs are not designed for the viewers to "interact" with what is being broadcast, .... therefore no logical thought or deductibe thinking is required for enjoyment of watching said TV ...... and thus no nurturing of said mental attributes occurs.   

Any child that has limited abilities of "interacting" with other children or adults are thus diagnosed as being "autistic".   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unusual Treenware Mixer?
Post by: mart on February 26, 2014, 02:28:10 PM
You are quite right Cogar !! You know I do not ever remember a case of ADHD when I was in school !! It didn`t exist !! And if it did,, one thought of that paddle the teacher had at his desk cured it !!
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Post by: cogar on February 27, 2014, 05:12:05 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D