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Title: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: mantrid on April 01, 2014, 05:20:16 AM
Hello
I have recently been doing some ground work in the  back garden and have been unearthing lots of broken pottery. Most of it looks like broken plates. But a couple of items were more unusual and I couldnt identify what they would have been used for. One I have attached pictures of in the hope that someone can tell me what it is and maybe a date for it.

As can be see from the pics it is a piece from something larger.
There is no marks on it.
The picture on it looks like a print rather than painted on.
The house whos garden it was found in is a stone terraced house in Wales and could be near 200 yrs old so at what time it was discarded there I cant estimate.

Thank you for your time

Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: KC on April 01, 2014, 08:54:53 AM
Welcome to the forum!

How fun!  When I dig in my yard I just get dirt and rocks! :)

Can you tell us the dimensions of the piece?
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: cogar on April 01, 2014, 10:54:42 AM
It looks to me like a lamp base ..... such as this one.

(http://www.hoylelamps.com/images/antique-lamp-george-martha-washington.jpg)

For more info ....

source link:  http://www.hoylelamps.com/antique/george-martha.html (http://www.hoylelamps.com/antique/george-martha.html) 
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: mart on April 01, 2014, 10:56:02 AM
Looks like the base of an old lamp,,mid 30`s or 40`s !! Its transfer ware,,like a decal !!
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: Ipcress on April 01, 2014, 11:38:16 AM
Cogar with the 3.....nails it !
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: mantrid on April 01, 2014, 12:44:58 PM
Thanks for the quick reply.
Yes it certainly looks like that. It never ccured to me to be a lamp base as it is very small
The height is 90mm, the widthe 80mm and the depth about 50mm.

Yes its suprising how much pottery there is in the garden. It seems everyone who lived there must have been throwing the stuff in the garden each time they broke something.

Something I found today, what looks like a fairly modern plate with a logo that I have been googling but with no luck. only thing thats close is Indian Oil company, but that doent sound right
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: mart on April 01, 2014, 01:19:04 PM
What is that in inches ?? There were two basic sizes for lamps !! A large one for a parlor and a smaller size for bedroom !! Look at the bottom back and see if there is a hole for the wiring !!
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: cogar on April 02, 2014, 02:07:52 AM
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The height is 90mm, the widthe 80mm and the depth about 50mm.


That would be  3.54" high, 3.15" wide, and  1.96" deep   ;D ;D


Mart, I usta be able to quickly convert metric to decimal or vice versa ..... but nowdays I use Google.

So, just load Google and key in ....... convert ?? to ?? .... and it'll do it for you.  

The above "??" can be any abbreviated dimension such as:

in, ft, yd, mi, .... mm, cm, km, ..... F, C (temperature), .... pt, qt gal, liter, ... etc.

And ps, I'm constantly using the ........ define ?-?-?-?-? ....... to doublecheck my word usage.
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: mantrid on April 02, 2014, 04:41:51 AM
What is that in inches ?? There were two basic sizes for lamps !! A large one for a parlor and a smaller size for bedroom !! Look at the bottom back and see if there is a hole for the wiring !!

Sorry didnt check that this was a US based forum. Yes cogars conversions are correct.
There is no hole for the wire as can be seen on the photos. The wire hole may have been on the missing bottom section
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: cogar on April 02, 2014, 06:55:08 AM
I think you should re-measure it.
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: Mat on April 02, 2014, 07:54:55 AM
Hi, couldn't this just have been a small vase (because of its size)? I mean the lamp base cogar shows is also made in form of a vase...
Mat
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: KC on April 02, 2014, 10:18:26 AM
I was thinking it looked like a mantle piece!  Would have been attached to a marble base with a rod through it.

Mat, the reason it most likely isn't just a vase is because of the small hole at the top and bottom! Vase wouldn't have a hole at the bottom (solid) and a larger hole at the top! 
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: mantrid on April 02, 2014, 10:53:04 AM
The hole at the bottom is just there because the bottom ortion is broken off.
The measurements are correct. It is very small, it fits comfortably in the palm of my hand. To get a visual idea, the photo 3 is about the size of an hens egg
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: icedgold10 on April 02, 2014, 06:21:39 PM
Now that is an interesting size for a lamp.  I have one beside me but a lot bigger.  Never seen one that small.
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: mart on April 02, 2014, 07:28:35 PM
If it were all intact it would look more proportionate !! I have had some that were very small that I assume were nightlights !!
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: KC on April 02, 2014, 10:15:34 PM
LOL  A regular hen's egg or a ostrich egg?  Just funin' ya!

Wow, that is small....hmmmm....
Title: Re: Pottery Dug Up in Garden
Post by: greenacres on April 03, 2014, 09:37:21 PM
Maybe childs version.