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Title: Can anyone Identify 2 of these 4 marks on this Guilloche Box?
Post by: genesisvh on August 28, 2014, 02:54:21 PM

I have this round guilloche box with a few markings. I identified some of the markings but I have trouble with the last two. The first one I have identified is the 935 meaning it is silver either from Austria, Germany or Switzerland. The other is a swan marking. Meaning it was imported into France from countries without customs conventions.

The two I cannot Identify is a 'H.C.B.M.' - the "C" wraps around the "B." and the other is a PD wrapped in a square with rounded corners. Would anyone know these markings? Once again Thanks in advance.

Frank

Title: Re: Can anyone Identify 2 of these 4 marks on this Guilloche Box?
Post by: mart on August 28, 2014, 04:41:53 PM

http://menswear-discounts.com/Discount-Designer-Menswear/store/Fine-Austrian-Sterling-Silver-Blue-Roud-Guilloche-Box-With-Gold-Wash-Inside-Sign_261572517056.html

Is this yours ??

Title: Re: Can anyone Identify 2 of these 4 marks on this Guilloche Box?
Post by: genesisvh on August 28, 2014, 04:52:52 PM

Yes it is.

Title: Re: Can anyone Identify 2 of these 4 marks on this Guilloche Box?
Post by: mart on August 28, 2014, 06:42:47 PM

Thought it was !! Was looking for matching mark !!  Ipcress might know these marks since he is in the UK and deals more in European items !!

Title: Re: Can anyone Identify 2 of these 4 marks on this Guilloche Box?
Post by: genesisvh on August 28, 2014, 06:51:57 PM

Weird how ebay ads appear on other sites. I priced it high because I wasn't sure of the marks. I guess knowing the marks can help get a better idea on it's value.

Title: Re: Can anyone Identify 2 of these 4 marks on this Guilloche Box?
Post by: mart on August 28, 2014, 07:23:03 PM

Well, that's odd !! I didn`t notice anything about it being an ebay listing !!

Title: Re: Can anyone Identify 2 of these 4 marks on this Guilloche Box?
Post by: genesisvh on August 28, 2014, 07:28:37 PM

That link you posted is a link within a link to my eBay listing.

Title: Re: Can anyone Identify 2 of these 4 marks on this Guilloche Box?
Post by: KC on August 29, 2014, 01:32:15 PM

I haven't found the maker either.  There are many that aren't listed in databases.

However, always look for alternate possibilities. Many took "artistic" variations for their logos that make sense to them...and years later not for others!  

So it is possible the name could be related to:
HMCB     (remember, on monograms the center letter could be last name) and the small letter could stand for Brothers.  So, just for an example Harold and Milton Conley Brothers could be HCM  

Title: Re: Can anyone Identify 2 of these 4 marks on this Guilloche Box?
Post by: genesisvh on August 29, 2014, 03:14:09 PM

Thank you KC I too got stuck on those last two. Thanks everyone for the info. Really do appreciate it. This is the only link I found on someone else who had the same issue as myself. Although the images are not shown the description is exact on the markings. Once again Thanks.