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Title: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
Post by: kenzie3775 on January 17, 2015, 08:13:49 PM: Its made by Franziska Hirsch with markings on the bottom of S & G Gump Co. San Francisco and dresden. The H with wings is her marking. I just don't have a clue of what it is. It measures 5 1/8" on top 6 1/2" diameter on bottom, and is 2" in height. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Tracy
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Post by: kenzie3775 on January 17, 2015, 08:28:41 PM: Thought I attached all the photos...oops
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Post by: kenzie3775 on January 17, 2015, 08:30:09 PM: More pics
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Post by: kenzie3775 on January 17, 2015, 08:31:29 PM: Pic without perforated plate
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Post by: mart on January 17, 2015, 08:47:36 PM: If I were to guess,, I would say it was for tea bags after they are removed from the cup !! But something tells me that's not it !! Something is rattling around in my brain but just can`t place it !! Someone here will know !!
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Post by: mart on January 18, 2015, 07:26:39 PM: I am bumping this up so KC and the others will take a look tomorrow !!
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Post by: kenzie3775 on January 18, 2015, 08:12:10 PM: Thank you
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Post by: KC on January 19, 2015, 11:14:33 PM: Small berry bowl with under plate. They had drain holes so any water left on berries/fruit could drain, be exposed to air to dry and thus have less spoilage!
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Post by: kenzie3775 on January 20, 2015, 05:28:11 AM: Awesome...thanks so much. Makes sense.
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Post by: KC on January 20, 2015, 08:49:52 AM: Very beautiful piece! You don't see them very often with handles. :)
Title: Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
Post by: Chris_Marshall on January 20, 2015, 09:47:09 AM: Two comments:

- the item was not made by Hirsch, merely (re)decorated.
- impressed DPV mark, hence item produced earlier than mid-1908.
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Post by: KC on January 20, 2015, 02:36:27 PM: Thanks a million Chris! Had no idea on maker but knew what the item was/used for! :) Always a pleasure to get your help!
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Post by: kenzie3775 on January 21, 2015, 07:20:43 AM: I didn't even see thev DPV till now....need my eyes checked. I googled DPV, but didn't see anything. sorry, I just started buying antiques.
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Post by: mart on January 21, 2015, 08:10:41 AM: Even though pottery and porcelain is not my area,,I would say you did well on this purchase if price was reasonable !!
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Post by: Chris_Marshall on January 21, 2015, 08:46:18 AM: Should have added this earlier but was on my way to the hospital; here the missing addition:

The so-called "DPV" mark (as most people read it that way) actually is a "VDP" and stands for the (hold tight!) "Vereinigung deutscher Porzellan-Fabrikanten zur Hebung der Porzellan-Industrie GmbH", a commercial union of German porcelain manufacturers, representing around 77 different companies. Its main job was the active promotion of German porcelain sales in Austria, Switzerland, the four German colonies in Africa, and other areas of interest (except already covered areas like the UK, Canada and the USA).

Shown DPV mark was registered on October 15th 1908 as Reichswarenzeichenr egister (RWZR) #111474; the business itself already disbanded four years later (hence shown DPV mark was only used 1908-1912).
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Post by: mart on January 21, 2015, 09:54:13 AM: Hope all is OK Chris !!
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Post by: Chris_Marshall on January 21, 2015, 10:31:59 AM: Was actually still recovering from my spine operation in November but had to have a heart cath job done.
Title: Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
Post by: kenzie3775 on January 21, 2015, 01:50:47 PM: Wow...the plethora of knowledge you guys have. I've learned a lot on this piece. I purchased it from a local auction for $9.00.
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Post by: KC on January 21, 2015, 02:29:49 PM: Will keep you in our prayers Chris! Sounds like you have been going through alot - but it seems to be working!

By-the-way...where in Germany are you? Anywhere near Mainz?
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Post by: Chris_Marshall on January 21, 2015, 02:46:47 PM: I live in Dortmund, so Mainz is 250km/155 miles away =^..^=
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Post by: mart on January 21, 2015, 02:59:48 PM: Quote from: Chris_Marshall on January 21, 2015, 10:31:59 AM
Was actually still recovering from my spine operation in November but had to have a heart cath job done.

We hope the healing goes well and you have no more problems !! Seems like you have had a really bad few months !! Just take it easy for a while !! Will say a prayer that things improve for you !! Don`t forget to pop in and say hi every once in a while !!
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Post by: kenzie3775 on January 22, 2015, 07:57:52 AM: I hope you'll get well soon Chris and I appreciate the time you took to reply to my post.