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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: kben on February 04, 2015, 05:42:40 AM
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These drawers were left to my son, we know they are at least 50 years old. Could anyone help, please. Thanks
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Sorry I am new to this and cannot seem to attach another picture.
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From what I can discern without a closer look at the interior and drawer joining, I would say it is factory made from around 1880-1900. Appears to be walnut to me. Lets see what the others say.
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Thanks for the reply. I will try to upload some more pictures.
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The dimensions are 48inches width by 48 inches high and 20 inch depth.
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Eastlake, 1880-1900, i think english made because hand cut dovetails & oak secondary wood
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I'am surprised Mart is going to allow Jacon to say the bureau is Eastlake. It is English, but not Eastlake. I noticed Insta appraisal squared there act up.but I bet there still cheating.
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The above chest is classic Eastlake, straight incised lines that are a signature decoration of that period & style. I would also note that the chest is built by hand, common in England until the 1930s because of the guild system (unions), in America with no guild system, most furniture built after 1850 was machine built with steam power.
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Ghopper is a collector of victorian furniture, dont see him here much these days though. Maybe Mart & he will stop & take a look see. I think ghopper stopped coming here because of a poster who was abusive and now banned, forget his name but bottom line is, ghopper doesn't come any more, that's a shame because he knew victorian furniture very well.
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Well, thanks Jacon!
Your previous posts are exactly right; I can see there's no need for me around here ha ha. ;D
English: handmade through the 1930s. This dresser is in fact English and from the 1890s. The incised lines are indicative though they may be found on furniture into the 1920s.
And yes, it's walnut. Nice little dresser!
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I'am surprised Mart is going to allow Jacon to say the bureau is Eastlake. It is English, but not Eastlake. I noticed Insta appraisal squared there act up.but I bet there still cheating.
Dewain knows me too well !! You get chests similar to these because of William Morris`influence during that period !! That's why it looks more A&C than Eastlake although you could call it either one and not be wrong !! Just happened to be similar time period !! The stamp on back is the retailer,,probably not the not the maker !! A few of these shops made their own furniture but as a rule they just sold items made by other cabinetmakers or had the items made according to their needs !! Like todays designer shops !!
Whats the deal with Insta-appraisal ?? Haven`t heard anything !!
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Well, thanks Jacon!
Your previous posts are exactly right; I can see there's no need for me around here ha ha. ;D
English: handmade through the 1930s. This dresser is in fact English and from the 1890s. The incised lines are indicative though they may be found on furniture into the 1920s.
And yes, it's walnut. Nice little dresser!
Well, it about darned time you got back here !! :D
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Thanks for the replies guys, very interesting. So, my son could have a nice contribution to his holiday fund if he sells them then. There is some water damage(I think) on the top but I assume this could be sorted by the right people.
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Yep English....but not Eastlake. Feel it is around early 1900's.
Company History shows they weren't at the Union Street location until later into their history
https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/2130788192/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/2130788192/)
The Lower was removed from their address after it took over property they bought from Chamberlain, Poles & Company (show CP&CO was still in location at 1899 and on a notation on the same site above it shows they were there until 1922).
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LOL, OK, if not Eastlake, what style is it then? edwardian? Whenever i see those straight incised lines in walnut built during the late victorian era, 1880-1900 or so, i think of eastlake. Then there are the pulls, they look late victorian to me. Naturally this period of furniture is way out of my field of interest & it's english built as well (HORROR!), wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of my area of knowledge. Quick google search, "english eastlake dresser", brought this result, thinks they mean 1910 instead of 1810
http://ancientpoint.com/inf/96427-solid_cherry___________english_antique_furniture_eastlake_dresser_commode_______circa_1810.html
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Value, in england i have no clue, in america, not much, it would do well if it brought $100-150 USD. Over here antique "brown furniture" in the middle market has been on a bad run the last decade or so, you can buy solid walnut, cherry furniture at auction for less than one pays for sawdust furniture at IKEA.
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Value, in england i have no clue, in america, not much, it would do well if it brought $100-150 USD. Over here antique "brown furniture" in the middle market has been on a bad run the last decade or so, you can buy solid walnut, cherry furniture at auction for less than one pays for sawdust furniture at IKEA.
Amen. It's a sad state of affairs for those of us who "invested" in brown furniture 5-10 years ago. But.....I love it anyway!
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I'am surprised Mart is going to allow Jacon to say the bureau is Eastlake. It is English, but not Eastlake. I noticed Insta appraisal squared there act up.but I bet there still cheating.
Dewain knows me too well !! You get chests similar to these because of William Morris`influence during that period !! That's why it looks more A&C than Eastlake although you could call it either one and not be wrong !! Just happened to be similar time period !! The stamp on back is the retailer,,probably not the not the maker !! A few of these shops made their own furniture but as a rule they just sold items made by other cabinetmakers or had the items made according to their needs !! Like todays designer shops !!
Whats the deal with Insta-appraisal ?? Haven`t heard anything !!
My opinion Jacon4 !! Your price is about right for the U.S. !! Not sure about UK prices !! Although,, items advertised as A&C bring more that if the same item is called Eastlake !! As you have said many times,,people of the Victorian era and its revival used what they wanted to use without regard to style trends !!
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Although,, items advertised as A&C bring more that if the same item is called Eastlake !!
A&C? arts & craft? Well, to me, that style brings to mind golden oak in mission, craftsman, arts & craft or whatever style you want to call it with exposed mortise and tenon joinery as a decoration. Yes, period mission style furniture can get pricey particularly if built & branded by a famous maker like Stickley.
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Any ideas what a dealer would offer for them or is he better selling them somewhere like e bay? Thanks
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how many does he have? I would say ebay would probably be your best bet. A dealer has to buy wholesale, an auction house charges fees so for furniture like this, ebay would be best i think.
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Although,, items advertised as A&C bring more that if the same item is called Eastlake !!
A&C? arts & craft? Well, to me, that style brings to mind golden oak in mission, craftsman, arts & craft or whatever style you want to call it with exposed mortise and tenon joinery as a decoration. Yes, period mission style furniture can get pricey particularly if built & branded by a famous maker like Stickley.
Here in the U.S. that is true but in the UK and in the early days it was a bit different !! Walnut was used a lot !! Still see more walnut in UK furniture than oak !!
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I think part of the stamp says ce?78years. Any ideas what this would mean as I believe phillips and sons were trading from around 1800. Thanks
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I think it says Est, 78 years !! Some will say Est, 1900, or something similar !! Just means how long the retailer/furnisher has been in business !!
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And a little historical trivia, perhaps??
Still see more walnut in UK furniture than oak !!
HA, ;D ;D that's surely because they didn't have any "treehugging" environmentalists back in the early days when they were pretty much "clear-cutting" the oak for ship building, etc.
By the way, that is also what triggered ..... The Pine Tree Riot in New England.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Tree_Riot)
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Haven`t heard about that one !! Will have to read it later !! Pines are not my favorite tree but hate to see them cut here !!