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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: bradC1987 on February 16, 2015, 08:08:33 PM
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Hey folks,
Hoping for some identification help with this cabinet, I have had a good look around it and can not find any significant marks that would help me find out what this is. If anyone could tell me what it is or even point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated.
(http://iforce.co.nz/i/qbsipbhm.avu.jpg)
(http://iforce.co.nz/i/g4phvxn5.mzy.jpg)
(http://iforce.co.nz/i/udjs40ij.lau.jpg)
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Waterfall features, carvings - looks like Artsy Crafty Depression era furniture to me!
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KC,
How do you tell the difference between an American Empire piece and depression era? Wood? size? The carving? Etc.?
PeLady
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I guess I would call it a version of a "Scotch Chest of Drawers".
http://www.sellingantiques.co.uk/171304/antique-victorian-mahogany-scotch-chest-of-drawers-with-secret-compartment-c1880-w6993256/ (http://www.sellingantiques.co.uk/171304/antique-victorian-mahogany-scotch-chest-of-drawers-with-secret-compartment-c1880-w6993256/)
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Thanks for the reply's, very helpful so far.
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American Empire pieces generally had scrolled feet or claw feet. They also had curved large bulky pieces...and the larger upper part of the chest is often seen in the Empire. However, the decoration on the sides is more arts/crafts style than the classical carvings. (In my humble opinion.) They used many woods/insets, ovals, bees, etc.
Here is a page to help some Pelady
http://www.connectedlines.com/styleguide/style14.htm (http://www.connectedlines.com/styleguide/style14.htm)
I have an inherited bedroom set from the late 1800's that the chest is much like this one (without the large round feed but has casters). Wish I could get to it in storage to show a pic...hopefully someday soon will get to that.
bradc1987 can you please post a picture of the side of a drawer? The back of the piece? Thanks
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With furniture,, at any given time after about 1890 there were at least 5 or 6 styles rambling around in America !! To determine when this chest was made you have to look at the entire chest and just give it your best guess !! Finding out who made it is next to impossible !! There were just too many made by too many mfrs !! Most styles persisted about 20 years and any thing made within that period may have two three elements commonly seen on others !! This chest has the rolled front common to both Empire Revival and the Waterfall styles of the Deco era,, the incised lines of Arts & Crafts with wood knobs, and the scroll work of Empire Revival now throw into that the bun feet of the Jacobean Revival & W&M and its kind of a Heinz 57 !! That would tell me that it was made either at the beginning of a style era or at the end which really doesn`t matter either way !! I call most of these transitional styles since they are a combination of elements !! Will wait to see the dovetails !! Which is another story in itself !!
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Thanks heaps guys,
I will try to get a photo of the back and sides of the draws in the next couple of days, Are there any other pictures that would help?
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Just good clear pics of both and see if there are any numbers on the back !!
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Hey there, Sorry about the delay. Finally have some more picures which can hopefully help identify this piece
Back
(http://iforce.co.nz/i/br1iynmd.vj5.jpg)
Draw joints
(http://iforce.co.nz/i/ys2e2mni.e5g.jpg)
Also found a logo, its a bit worn but hopefully someone might recognize it
(http://iforce.co.nz/i/ldjhfwru.j4t.jpg)
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What is the shape of the nail "heads" in those vertical backboards?
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Are my eyes deceiving me or does that say 5 SCORE?
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What is the shape of the nail "heads" in those vertical backboards?
Unsure about that, I would have to go have another look. im guessing you can tell when it was made based on what type of nails were used?
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Looks like an English made Empire Revival chest,,style is different from most that are made here !! The incised lines show a bit of Eastlake influence !! Probably around 1880 to 1900 !!
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What is the shape of the nail "heads" in those vertical backboards?
Unsure about that, I would have to go have another look. im guessing you can tell when it was made based on what type of nails were used?
If they are "square" headed nails then that dates it at pre-1882 or there abouts because that is when "wire" nails (round headed) started being mass produced.
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As far as identification...I would call it a "Colonial New Zealand Scotch Chest of Drawers". Maybe utilizing native Kauri pine or Rimu wood? (I once bought an older chest from a Lady that had brought it with her when she moved from NZ to the US.)