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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: dashur1 on April 22, 2015, 05:33:13 PM
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I'm hoping that someone out there can help me. I've done some looking around on the web but tapestries are such a massive subject and without definitive information I'm not finding anything specific to help me.
I have a large tapestry with some interesting markings on it that Im not able to make much headway with in terms of age, origin, etc. This tapestry measures approximately 52 wide by 126 long. The backside of the piece almost leads me to believe it was handstitched/embroidered but that is only my very uneducated guess. There is some handstitched lettering in the center white cotton area as well as along one edge. Im not able to decipher any of the lettering and am not sure it is English. There is a possibility that the tapestry has Danish origin but no certainty. Besides the embroidered lettering there is what looks to be a white cotton strip of cloth sewn to the back of the piece with printing on it consisting of a black star preceding the number 56158. There is also a small red wax seal coming off of this piece of cloth it has an impressed mark in the center of it but the wax has cracked and Im not able to read what it says. There is also a small strip of white cloth sewn to the edge of the tapestry with handwritten lettering on it. The cloth is partially deteriorated so I cant read what all the lettering says. I see the number 1890 perhaps a date and some other lettering possibly He Dobf??? and some other numbers.
Any information on possible origin, age, what some of the markings might be, etc would be very much appreciated. I have more photos but see I am limited to 4 with my post. Thank you in advance!
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I can only get the first pic to load !! And can`t enlarge it !! If the pics were smaller size would be easier !! This computer is an ancient one,, have to buy a new one soon !! Try taking a closer shot of the writing I see on the first pic !!
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I can't load any of them. It says file not found
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have tried to reload - seems they did all load initially but for some reason they are not all there any longer. I can try to take additional ones tomorrow if these don't work. Thanks again in advance!
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and some more
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May I ask how you came to have this piece ?? Is it a family piece or was it purchased ?? It appears to be at least a partly hand embroidered coverlet !! There are a few places where I could not tell if hand done or,, If it was a piece of fabric that had been embroidered over or had appliques added !! How big is it ??
The name and dates are in English but are difficult to read because of the staining !!
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It measures 52" wide by 126" long. It was purchased at an estate sale - possibly Danish origin or possibly French based on family history I was able to gather (assuming it is from this family). I don't note any staining to the piece - the only damage I note is to the one tag affixed to the back which has what I'm guessing it a year written on it and yes that does appear to be English. Also some wear to the edging. However the embroidered signatures/lettering does not appear to be English. And yes it does look like it is hand embroidered but I wasn't certain as the detailing is extremely intricate.
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I just meant the stains on the little white part that has the name and date on it !! Not on the coverlet itself !! How many names are on it !! This might be a version of what we call a friendship quilt !! That is where every one does a square and stitches their name on it,, then they are all assembled into a quilt with signatures from those that contributed !! I know this isn`t a quilt but could be a bed covering !!
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There is only the embroidered stitching in one place on the edge as well as one other place in the center. Then there are the 2 cloth tags applied - one that is signed in ink and the other which has a printed number on it.
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Did you ask the people you bought it from where it came from or what the history was ?? They would know !! Even if its an estate sale by heirs !!
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They had no idea. The sale was handled by a dealer. Tried to get some info but also really wanted the piece and didn't want to jinx the sale.
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Then the dealer was a real DA for not doing proper research/ ID/ !! May I ask what you paid for this piece !!
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Minimal amount in my opinion - $75
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I would say that is a very minimal amount !! You did well !! I would suggest taking it to either a museum or someone familiar with antique needle work for a look !! Some of the design looks Turkish or Persian and then some parts do not !! At any rate it was at least owned by an English speaking person from the signature !! Could be worth quite a bit more than what you paid !!
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yes - I think my best best is to get in touch with someone to look at it - have a museum not too far away that I think has a textile expert that I'll plan to get in touch with. Thanks for your input!
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Be sure and let us know what they say !! Hope it is a good one !!
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Found out it is a Kashmir shawl, circa 1870 - very much in vogue in Europe and the US between about 1830 and 1870. Thanks for all your help!
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Is that all they said ?? Shawl for what ?? Value ??
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No info on value but I have found them online selling for between $250 and $850. I was told they were worn and early Indian miniature portraitures show people wearing them. This is a larger size made specifically for US and European markets - also for wear but have seen them noted as being used for a variety of things - wear, piano cover, coverlette, etc.
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An excellent buy !!