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Title: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: cogar on December 17, 2015, 11:15:45 AM
Here are photos of my little collection of “little” graniteware pieces.

These are all originals (no repros) and all in excellent condition.

Here’s hoping you enjoy seeing these unique pieces and if you have any questions either I or another member of this Forum will surely attempt to provide an answer(s).

The 1st photo is a group picture and the next 3 photos are of the items on the back row. The photos were taken on a folded-up bath towel lying on the seat of an Oak dinette chair.

(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af315/SamC_40/019.jpg) 
(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af315/SamC_40/014.jpg) 
(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af315/SamC_40/007_1.jpg) 
(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af315/SamC_40/004.jpg)
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: cogar on December 17, 2015, 11:24:45 AM
I see my 1st photo was too wide so will attempt to post a smaller one.

Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: ghopper1924 on December 17, 2015, 04:49:08 PM
Niiicccceeeee!!!!!

We have a few pieces as well. How are they valued these days?
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Jlsherf on December 17, 2015, 04:56:52 PM
Love granite ware!  How do you tell if they are originals or repros and what did they use such small items for?  Were they children's toys.  Really do want to know because if you looked at my favorites on my computer, you would find a lot of granite ware for sale sites.  I should just do a little history search myself huh?  Lol!  Your collection is awesome BTW!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: mart on December 17, 2015, 07:41:57 PM
Not for children !!  This was everyday ware !! Cogar,, I find those butter warmers quite often !!  I have one in storage somewhere !! 
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Pelady on December 17, 2015, 10:24:57 PM
Cogar,

Love your little treasures.  I first fell in love with graniteware/splatterware when I found some in a bottle dump or farm dump.  I put the old rusted pieces in my gardens.

PeLady
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Pelady on December 17, 2015, 10:28:11 PM
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Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: cogar on December 18, 2015, 05:20:45 AM

Thanks Mart, I didn’t know the little blue one was a “butter warmer”.

How do you tell if they are originals or repros 

Jlsherf, your question about “original or repro” can have many answers depending on the item in question. But they all boil down to ….. knowledge, experience, gut-feelings or provenance. In other words, …. its looks, patina, shape, construction and most important of all, …. “would the reproducing of the item be worthwhile?” 

Anyway, I know 4 of the pictured items are “originals” simply because I took them off of a basement shelf of a house in the center of Washington, DC, ….. that I am fairly sure that they had been sitting thereon since the early 1950’s or before. The home was owned by the father of my friend’s wife (father-in-law) and the one she was born and raised in ….. and he and I were there to get some of the furnishings she wanted because her father sold the house to purchase a condo.
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: ghopper1924 on December 18, 2015, 06:06:59 AM
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Beautiful! Looks like you DON'T live in Missouri! ;D
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: mart on December 18, 2015, 06:28:35 AM
LOL !!  Or Texas,!!  ;D
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Jlsherf on December 18, 2015, 08:52:23 AM
Thank you Cigar!  I jus love them!  Mart, glad to know the use and name of the "butter warmer".  I always called it a dipper.  Lol!  Pealady,  I love your garden!  He use of your granite ware in it is very cool!  I love " rustic garden art".  Looks like that garden could be here where I am.  Just today and this weekend it will be highs in the 60's.  We have been seeing 80's!  To be in the 80's Christmas!  Love my Florida winters!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Pelady on December 18, 2015, 09:14:24 AM
The pictures are from Plymouth MA first one is early spring April or May.  The other is same garden in late June.  Massachusetts is having a weird winter so far this year with above average temps.  We almost hit 70 degrees this week.  Sometimes we get snow in November but none so far this year.

Love to see other people graniteware....!

PeLady
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Jlsherf on December 18, 2015, 09:31:39 AM
Cogar I am sorry I just noticed my auto correct of your "name"!  Lol!  I have got to pay better attention!  Well pelady that explains the lush garden!  Just beautiful! 
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Rauville on December 18, 2015, 10:51:14 AM
Probably 35 years ago I attended an estate auction where the family for some reason had bought and saved new graniteware years ago. There were literally hundreds of mint condition pieces, all wrapped in 1930's newspapers, that had been stored in the attic. I purchased as much as I could afford at the time, and promptly resold them through my shop.
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: KC on December 18, 2015, 11:34:14 AM
Love this topic!!!

Pelady, gorgeous garden and decor!  There are several gardens in a nearby town that edged their gardens with chipped dinnerplates.  Makes a really nice "scalloped" edge when they are partially buried!

Cogar, thanks for showing us your treasures!  Love graniteware!  Yep, Mart got that right!   Its a butter warmer!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: mart on December 18, 2015, 06:25:14 PM
They are handy when eating pancakes !! You can pour warm butter over them instead of waiting for the butter pats to melt then trying to smear them over your breakfast !!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Jlsherf on December 18, 2015, 07:10:38 PM
Now I have to have one Mart!  I always use a measuring cup and the microwave.  Lol!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: mart on December 19, 2015, 05:19:00 AM
You can probably find them very reasonably on ebay !! When cooking the radiant heat will warm and  melt the butter if you just set it on top of your range or you can use the lowest heat setting and place it on a burner !!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Jlsherf on December 19, 2015, 06:14:27 AM
Good to know!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: KC on December 20, 2015, 07:56:00 PM
Get a couple!  One for butter and the other for warm syrup!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: greenacres on December 20, 2015, 09:07:51 PM
PeLady, love the garden idea! Your garden looks great! Cigar, nice splatter/Graniteware! ☺
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Jlsherf on December 20, 2015, 09:17:37 PM
KC I had already thought of that!  I have been using the microwave less and less.  I think I will get me two! 

@greenacres. Lol yours auto corrected Cogar's name just like mine did!  Now I don't feel so bad!  😀
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: cogar on December 21, 2015, 06:08:18 AM
HA,  ;D ;D don’t be fretting about the spelling of my last name or the pronunciation of it. Like they say, ……. “call me anything except late for a cold beer”.

The name is originally German, as per an ancestry web link, and dates back to a Claus Koger who was born in 1572. And as his descendents migrated into western Europe and then to America the spelling of the name changed according to “who” was writing it down on paper.

Ya gotta remember, very few people could read or write in those days but most all knew how to pronounce or say their name. Thus, when said person got married, bought property, booked passage, got arrested, etc., the spelling of their name was at the discretion of the literate person that was writing it on the document. And if the linage of the literate person was German then the name was spelled with a “K”, and if English it was spelled with a “C” and the remaining spelling was whatever the literate person thought it should be. And from that time onward that is “who” you were ….. as long as you had that document or a copy of it (even if you couldn’t read what was written on it).   

Thus said, the spelling of my last name was originally Koger, but over the past 400 years the spelling of it has morphed into several different spellings such as: Kogar, Kowger, Kowgar, Kougar, Cogar, Coger, Cowger, Cougar, etc. HA HA,  ;D ;D … one time a person wrote my name as Sam Gocar.

But technically, none of the above really matters simply because I am not a Cogar or a descendent of said Claus Koger, …. nor was my father, my grandfather or my g-g-g-grandfather.

YA’ll have a good day and I thank you for your comments about my collection of graniteware. I’ll try to post pictures of some more of my “goodies” as time goes by.
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: mart on December 21, 2015, 07:06:02 PM
Cogar, are you related to the James Cogar whose columns appear weekly in the Longview newspaper ?? I believe he is a syndicated columnist so pretty well known I think !!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: cogar on December 22, 2015, 04:59:21 AM
Mart, not a close relative that I am knowledgeable of …… but then I am not obsessed with “family tree” research. But my wife is for her “family tree” and she is the one that directed me to this web site:  http://hackerscreek.com/norman/COGER.htm (http://hackerscreek.com/norman/COGER.htm)

And Mart, you have probably heard of these (distant) relatives of mine. Either Arden Cogar, Sr. or his son who is featured in this commentary. I’ve met the father but not the son. To wit:
http://www.stihlusa.com/stihl-timbersports/athletes/pro-competitor/arden-cogar-jr/ (http://www.stihlusa.com/stihl-timbersports/athletes/pro-competitor/arden-cogar-jr/)

My older brother George was the only notorious ;D ;D ;D one in my family, to wit: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cogar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cogar)
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: mart on December 22, 2015, 08:57:51 AM
Interesting about your brother !!  Couldn`t get the others to load !!  Did they ever find the plane ??
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 22, 2015, 06:18:33 PM
Hey Cogar, I do believe that one with the rounded lid is a beer bucket! VERY COOL!!! These are hard to find in good shape with the lids intact.
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: cogar on December 23, 2015, 06:03:17 AM
Oh, my, my, ….. a “beer bucket!” huh?

Thank you Tales, …. I would have never thought of that. The second I read your post I had “visions” of someone carrying their beer home from the local “pub” in that very bucket.

For those who don’t know the history, that is the way one purchased their beer in the “ole days” …… before they learned to pasteurize the beer and put it in bottles with a “secure” bottle cap on it.

Being a beer drinker myself, ….. that now makes my “bucket” extra special.

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And Mart, no, the plane was never found. And an added tid-bit that fate works in mysterious ways, I had made plans of being on that “hunting trip” but an unforeseen “act” cancelled them.
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: mart on December 23, 2015, 07:05:14 AM
Well, Sad about your brother but we thank God for that unforeseen act that kept you from going !!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Rauville on December 23, 2015, 09:17:12 AM
Cogar;
Before you head to the saloon to have your bucket filled, here's an old trick: Rub the inside surface with lard so the beer doesn't foam, and you'll end up with a better fill. 8)
(https://anaheimbrewery.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/bucketboy-custom-size-700-1439.jpg)
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 23, 2015, 12:12:57 PM
Bruce (my fiancee) and I recently turned an outbuilding behind the house into a pretty awesome old west saloon. We were looking for some antique beer buckets to serve guests beer in, but couldn't find originals in good enough shape to actually put beer into them, and we ended up going with some stainless steel livestock buckets instead that look similar. That's how I knew what your bucket was when I saw it. I'm so glad that knowing your beer bucket's use makes it special! So now you can pour a cold one, look over at it, and imagine lil' Jimmy running to the corner bar to fill dad's beer bucket for him! Cheers!

Here's a picture of Bruce and I in our saloon.
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: KC on December 23, 2015, 01:09:25 PM
Talesof, I am not seeing a pic of Bruce and yourself attached.  WHOOPS  JUST CLOSED AND OPENED AGAIN AND NOW IT IS SHOWING UP!!!  How fun!  You two are looking mighty spiffy!

So glad to hear things are on the up and up with you!  :)  You have been through alot during the time we have known you on the forum!  You so deserve tons of happiness/good things!!!!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 23, 2015, 07:09:21 PM
Thanks KC! Bruce has been through a lot too, he is widowed like me, we're both history nuts and long-time reenactors too. We met robbing trains and he proposed in Big Nose Kate's Saloon in Tombstone AZ, so having an old west saloon at home seems to be a good idea!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: cogar on December 24, 2015, 05:07:48 AM
Rauville, that was a great picture, thanks for posting it.

More beer trivia:  Home “brewers” like this type of beer bottle because it can be re-filled.
(http://www.sha.org/bottle/lightningstopper_small.jpg)

So iffen you are a “picker” and find a bunch at a garage sale @ a cheapy price, …. buy them.
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: mart on December 25, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
Neat Tales !!  Your own bar,, what an idea !!  That is a Texas flag I am seeing isn`t it ??

Cogar,, with all the home brewers now days,, they are not easy to find !!  Of course around here the drink is a tad stronger than beer !!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: KC on December 25, 2015, 10:53:49 PM
Yep Mart, that sure appears to be a Lone Star Flag!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: mart on December 26, 2015, 09:52:46 AM
Yep Mart, that sure appears to be a Lone Star Flag!

LOL !!  Going to have a lot of "splainin" to do !! "We met robbing trains" ??  Come on Tales,, we know there is a story there !!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: KC on December 30, 2015, 10:27:29 AM
Talesofthesevenseas, Love your story on how you two met!  So are you still doing pirate/ship reenactments?
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: ghopper1924 on December 30, 2015, 05:12:40 PM
Ahem, time to get back on track.

Here is our small but -I hope-worthy collection.  Any ideas on dates and value??
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Pelady on December 30, 2015, 06:21:55 PM
The miner's lunch pail has sold from $15 to $119 there are many more tin ones than graniteware that have sold.  Does yours have the cup with handle?

The smallest "cream can" have average sales @ $30.

PeLady
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: ghopper1924 on December 31, 2015, 01:54:41 AM
Thanks. Mine has the cup, but the cup doesn't have a handle. Also, it has a tray inside as well.

Any ideas on dates?
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: cogar on December 31, 2015, 05:58:46 AM
ghopper, those are real "beauties", ... thanks for posting the picture.
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: ghopper1924 on December 31, 2015, 06:39:28 AM
 8)
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: Jlsherf on December 31, 2015, 07:34:02 AM
Love these!  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Graniteware – a “show & tell”
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on December 31, 2015, 02:31:13 PM
Answering the questions, then back to graniteware...

1. Yup, that's the Texas flag, I think an old version of it from Bruce's reenacting but I could be wrong. It is covering the exit door.
2. No, I'm not doing the pirate stuff anymore. The ship moved out of state and was eventually sold. The old pirate group still get's together once a year for a dinner party and that's about it. I'm doing other forms of reenacting though, mostly Victorian. I've acquired several antique bicycles though and a small group of us are dressing for the era of each bicycle and riding them at parades and car shows. Lots of fun!
And in other news...
Much of my time these days is spent with my horse and on December 26th I became a grandma for the first time!

OK back to graniteware!