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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: kluksu on February 10, 2016, 09:23:26 AM
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hi,
i have this violin and i was wondering if its real and what is his value.
thank you!
P.S i have more pictures if needed.
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Might be a late 19th century copy or an earlier one restored, although the sound holes look a bit rough
I'll as someone who knows !
Any chance of an image of the label ? Should be possible in good daylight.
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Yes , kluksu , more images would be nice (possibly one of the label , as Ipcress mentioned) , esp. if they included the entire violin .
Sometimes the bow is a valuable item too !
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here's the label
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heres the bow.
thats the best picture of the bow that i got
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the case
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the violin
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What is the total length of the violin ??
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It's real...I can see it! :)
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Thanks for taking the time to post the extra images , kluksu !
It's sure tough to give a correct id on this one (for me) .
The realest & most accurate advice from me to you is :
1. Loosen those strings until they have no tension in them .
2. Don't clean it !
3. Get thee to a very good luthier , or a violin 'pro' for an correct I.D. on this little guy .
I'll just ramble on a bit about your fiddle for a min. , though .....
It is known that the Gabrielle (aka Gabrielli) 'shop' in Florence produced good quality violins & that they used a yellow varnish & written labels ( & did so in the 1760's) .
Yours seems to show lots of dings & small dents & possibly some 'worm holes' too (?) ...such marks can be a sign of both antique instruments & copies , as well as those intended to deceive (fakes) .
The very dark 'dot' on the back (where it looks like there's been a repair) near the base of it's neck is possibly iron corrosion from a steel/iron nail .... you might want to get a magnet & see if it holds onto it .
If that is a nail , it's a repair not done by a luthier !
Sometimes various violins were 'repaired/reassembled' in a manner which marries parts from other , non-original parts ... including major components of necks , fronts & backs .
I've seen a few hundred violins in Europe , many of which were survivors of wars over there & were repaired 'roughly' enough for them to be played again (times were extra-very tough after WW2) , esp during reconstruction periods .
Some of these old boys can play real sweet , too .
Maybe you've got a real pearl there , even if it does need work , kluksu !
Still being a pest , maybe could you post a pic of the side , front & back that do show the complete & entire instrument ?
Also ... where did you find this cool little item ?
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i am an ebay seller, i sell lots of collectibles so i go to flea markets a lot.
i meat a guy here with an amazing violins collection and he wants me to help him sell it, so this is the first one he wants to sell.
i was wondering if its good for ebay or maybe an auction house is a better way to go.
BTW the violin sounds amazing and its from israel so theres a good chance that it was brought here by a WW2 survivor.
here are some more pictures.
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front
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other side
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front
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front
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back
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You didn`t post the total length of the violin !! That would be important to your sale and would distinguish a full size from a 3/4 or smaller student size !! If you use Ebay be sure to put a reserve price on it !! There is one good violin group that I found who are very experienced with antique stringed instruments !! I will try to find a link for you !! Sometimes the history adds to the worth so be sure to get all the info you can and post it with the violin !!
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http://www.maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/forum/4-the-pegbox/
Here is a link to the discussion page !! If you are going to sell more violins you might consider joining this group !! They seem to be well versed in old stringed instruments and the makers !! Let us know what you find out !!
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ok, thank you!
i still dont have the size, i asked the collector to measure it.
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i am an ebay seller, i sell lots of collectibles so i go to flea markets a lot.
i meat a guy here with an amazing violins collection and he wants me to help him sell it, so this is the first one he wants to sell.
i was wondering if its good for ebay or maybe an auction house is a better way to go.
BTW the violin sounds amazing and its from israel so theres a good chance that it was brought here by a WW2 survivor.
here are some more pictures.
I think it's an excellent violin for Ebay, a collectable case which would increase value and make it easier to ship ( it's not going to break and the violin won't be damaged ! )
The market for violins on Ebay is strong and this, though a copy and in need of restoration, is quite scarce
I listed a violin on ebay about a year ago, expecting £300, and a US buyer paid £420 after the violin attracted plenty of interest even though it was a late 19th century copy of an 18th century violin.
Use all 12 photos, give dimensions etc
If you PM me when you've listed it, i can post the link on a violin collectors forum.
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http://www.maestronet.com/forum/index.php?/forum/4-the-pegbox/
Here is a link to the discussion page !! If you are going to sell more violins you might consider joining this group !! They seem to be well versed in old stringed instruments and the makers !! Let us know what you find out !!
I'm a member on there and it's a great forum when in need of guidance on a certain violin
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What is the total length of the violin ??
36 cm