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Title: DeSoto halbert
Post by: sipesj on February 29, 2016, 09:20:29 PM
     In 1981, my grandmother began corresponding with a man named Marion Dahm. He was trying to prove that the Vikings had visited North America before Columbus. She had in her possession an axe, spear, or whatever, and was trying to determine what it was. This item was found in a little town in Southern Illinois named Boaz. He was very interested, but through the years, they lost contact with each other. We have numerous articles and letters they shared with each other.
     Around six years ago, I decided to investigate some more, and got in contact with a historian named Jim Sheppard, who did major research on DeSoto's journeys through North America. His maps show that DeSoto did travel into Southern Illinois in the same area where this item was found. My question is this...Has anyone ever identified an item such as this, and could it be a halberd? Don said that DeSoto used halberds as weapons on his journeys. He is trying to get in contact with a weapons and arms museum in England, but hasn't heard back yet. Please let me know if you have any thoughts. What a mystery!   
     
Title: Re: DeSoto halbert
Post by: mart on March 01, 2016, 07:15:10 AM
Now that is an interesting story !!  Did the man ever say how or where the item was found ??  Was it dug up, bought from someone or what ??  It appears to be bronze !!
Title: Re: DeSoto halbert
Post by: Rauville on March 01, 2016, 10:46:58 AM
What's the length of the "handle/shaft"? The pin/rivet holding it on looks as if it's been there for a long time.
There were colonial blacksmith made belt axes with a similar basic style.
(http://www.cowanauctions.com/itemImages/a1571.jpg)
If you can find a reprint of an early 1900's Bannerman catalog, there should be a section of "Ancient Weapons" that were offered for sale at the time. Some dated back to the 1500's, while others were Victorian copies from the 1800's. Without knowing the providence of the piece it's hard to say who brought it to the area. Very interesting item regardless.
Title: Re: DeSoto halbert
Post by: mart on March 01, 2016, 12:38:37 PM
Yes,, really need to see the whole thing with measurements !!
Title: Re: DeSoto halbert
Post by: sipesj on March 02, 2016, 10:26:07 PM
The only piece that was found was the halbert itself. The handle is all wood, and was made by a family member.
Title: Re: DeSoto halbert
Post by: mart on March 03, 2016, 04:47:24 AM
What were the circumstances of its being found ??
Title: Re: DeSoto halbert
Post by: KC on March 03, 2016, 12:02:34 PM
I'm intrigued!
Title: Re: DeSoto halbert
Post by: mart on March 04, 2016, 05:37:02 AM
Me too !!