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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: casseman on March 19, 2016, 06:12:29 AM
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I had to take this table lamp apart because I was told it was a Delft. From what is left of the markings at the bottom it seems to be a Kinkozan pottery. Is the color blue what is called 'Gosu blue'?
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Take the shade off and take a closup pic and one of the bottom !! Looks like typical 60`s or 70`s table lamp to me !! Unless the owner had it drilled and converted !!
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I am not able to upload any pictures. Keep getting 'Internal Server Error'. But yes it was drilled and there is a signature that looks like Kinkozan when I checked on Gotheborg.com
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Load the pics to photobucket and just post a link to them !!
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Okay, here is the link to the pictures.
http://s1268.photobucket.com/user/lelicassar/library/?view=recent&page=1
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And of course the hole goes right through the stamp !! Well,, it isn`t Delft !!
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I am not able to upload any pictures. Keep getting 'Internal Server Error'. But yes it was drilled and there is a signature that looks like Kinkozan when I checked on Gotheborg.com
Try looking at the Guangxu marks.
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I uploaded another picture to photobucket just taken of the upper inner lip of the vase with a label stuck saying 'Made in Japan Kinkozan Pottery'.
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http://gotheborg.com/marks/satsuma.shtml
So its a Satsuma type import !! Factory closed in 1927 so it dates early 1900`s !!
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There's no way that's Kinkozan. Not the really fine maker of Satsuma that I know anyway.
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I'll explain :
Kinkozan made high quality satsuma vases. Classic Japanese pottery.
This lamp is blue and white blossom, a Chinese staple but also faked and copied for decades.
Put the term " made in Japan Kinkozan pottery " into Google and you'll see half a dozen results, all related to eBay. That's half a dozen results on the whole of the Internet.
The labels look like they were printed by a shop or a dealer.
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Seems this mark has been questioned before by others that have seen it on items:
http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Antiques/Marked-Chinese-porcelain-vase-old-or-recent-real-or-fake/td-p/17862189 (http://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Antiques/Marked-Chinese-porcelain-vase-old-or-recent-real-or-fake/td-p/17862189)
and here
http://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/marked-vase-black-enamel-flowers-blue-white-neck.html (http://www.chinese-antique-porcelain.com/marked-vase-black-enamel-flowers-blue-white-neck.html)
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I agree that it is a fake, the decoration has nothing to do with Kinkozan...
Mat
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You sure dish out a bitter pill Mat - Fake. Well, I guess the truth will set you free. Another label on the inside lip says 'Jordan Marsh Company Boston ' which I believe is Macy now. Maybe I can sue them for selling my wife's family way back a fake Kinkozan!!!!!
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Look, I do not know if it is a good idea to sue them based on forum opinions! This is just a decorative lamp, and who knows if they sold it as "Kinkozan" or not?
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Just joking. I am not going to sue nobody. Haven't got the time or money to undertake that headache.
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Just a bit of Massachusetts history:
http://www.massmoments.org/moment.cfm?mid=95
Even through Macy bought Jordan Marsh in 1995 people in Boston would never consider Macy as a continuation of Jordan Marsh. LOL!
PeLady
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LOL !! Wonder what their customer service department would do if you wrote a letter telling them the story !! How Macy`s way back in the early 1900`s sold a fake Kinkozan vase to your family !! Do you think they would take it seriously or consider you a few bricks shy of a load ??