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Title: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: happychappy33 on April 24, 2016, 07:57:44 AM
Hi everyone.

I have this pair of what I think are ivory, Chinese carved cabinet drawers.  I wondered if anyone could confirm this, maybe tell me the age, and value.  Basically any extra info would be great.  They are around 4" by 2"

Thanks.

(http://s31.postimg.org/ix72a9zmj/IMG_6967.jpg)

(http://s31.postimg.org/mtvf38v4r/IMG_6970.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: mart on April 24, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
Can you take a close up of one of the doors ??  Need a close shot of the uncarved section !!  Have to look at the grain/cellular lines !!
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: happychappy33 on April 24, 2016, 09:39:39 AM
Sorry, I should have maybe specified, there is no shadow of a doubt that they are ivory.  My query was really if anyone knew what type of item they were from and if they were infact drawer fronts.

Thanks
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: KC on April 24, 2016, 11:26:35 AM
I was trying to figure out the "theme" of the pictures.

They made inserts for spice cabinets, jewelry boxes, furniture, etc.  This could be Japanese,   Look at some Shibayama Cabinets, display cabinets, etc.
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: cogar on April 24, 2016, 01:33:45 PM
Sorry, I should have maybe specified, there is no shadow of a doubt that they are ivory.  My query was really if anyone knew what type of item they were from and if they were infact drawer fronts.

Thanks

The way they are made ...... with the dovetails and the "slot" for the drawer bottom, ...... they just gotta be drawer fronts.  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: mart on April 24, 2016, 01:58:16 PM
Your first line left doubt !!  How did you come to have these ??  Bought,,or are they family items ??
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: happychappy33 on April 24, 2016, 03:28:19 PM
I know, I am sorry about that.  I read it back and it does sound like that.

I bought them in an antique shop in England.
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: mart on April 24, 2016, 07:00:38 PM
Ipcress or Mat would be the best to give you additional info !! I am the worlds biggest skeptic when it comes to sellers telling you something is Ivory !! Have seen too many fakes go for "Real" prices !!
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: happychappy33 on April 25, 2016, 05:21:27 AM
Ok great, there is absolutely no shadow of a doubt that they are genuine ivory and very old.  This is a closer image of the carved scene.

(http://s31.postimg.org/naez0njzv/IMG_6968.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: Ipcress on April 25, 2016, 08:43:01 AM
They are probably ivory panels for a box to contain an item of every day use. Not the cover, but two sides.

Probably made around 1840 and worth a few hundred pounds.
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: mart on April 25, 2016, 11:38:03 AM
Sorry but the carvings do not help !!  The flat portion is wht is best to see if it indeed has the crosshatching of ivory rather than the straight grain of bone or other materials.  And would need to be a much higher resolution than your pics !!
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: happychappy33 on April 25, 2016, 02:29:07 PM
Thanks Ipcress, I didn't think they would be worth so much.  Is that for just the two sides or the whole cabinet/box?

This is an image with a flash.  I am quite confident they are ivory.

(http://s31.postimg.org/dyqgyy8qj/IMG_1931.jpg)
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: Ipcress on April 25, 2016, 05:28:40 PM
I think £100 a panel is easily achievable

And i've been smited again ! Thank you   :-*
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: Jlsherf on April 25, 2016, 07:15:31 PM
Ipcress, I wonder if some one may be trying to applaud you from a smart phone or tablet.  My tablet  makes it very hard to get my finger on the karma/applaud button.  I did manage to give you a karma point but it was difficult.  Difficult in that its so small.  Ican't imagine who would do that on purpose!  😮
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: mart on April 25, 2016, 07:28:36 PM
You know,, I never thought about that !! But today is the first time Ipcress has been here in a week or more !!  I think someone just doesn't know what they are doing and hit it to find out what smite is for !!  There is no one here that would intentionally smite Ipcress !! Could have been a mistake from the one with the ivory doors !! Intended to hit applaud but didn`t have the cursor where it should have been ??
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: cogar on April 26, 2016, 05:34:58 AM
Is that a beveled (45 degree) edge where the dovetails are?

If so, that would confirm Ipcress being correct, ...... side panels for a box.
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: happychappy33 on April 26, 2016, 07:21:44 AM
I think £100 a panel is easily achievable

And i've been smited again ! Thank you   :-*

Wow, thank you so much for your help, and also for everyone else's input and responses.

I am quite competent on message forums and can assure you it was not myself that smited/applauded (if I knew how to, I would most certainly have applauded).

Anyway, thanks again.



Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: mart on April 27, 2016, 02:52:47 AM
Did not intend that anyone would have done it on purpose !!  But if you look on the left under the persons name you will see the applaud/smite !!  If the cursor is too far right it smite instead of applauds the person !!  I think you have to have a certain number of posts before they can be used !!  With so many using the smaller devices would be easy to get the wrong one was my thought !!  I have a 15 inch notebook and still sometimes hit the wrong key/button/ ect !!
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: Jlsherf on April 27, 2016, 05:37:06 AM
That's what I'm thinking Mart!  I gave him a karma point and when I did it was so hard to get my finger on I.  I'm on my tablet and I can imagine it is so much harder on a phone!
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: KC on April 27, 2016, 07:20:04 PM
Mart, If I am correct you don't get access to the applaud/smite buttons until after you have so many posts (can't recall how many).  Remember this coming up in the past.
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: mart on April 28, 2016, 07:46:07 AM
Yes thats right KC !!  I forgot about that when I posted the first time but it was included in the next one !!
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: KC on April 28, 2016, 01:21:52 PM
Yep, you sure did.  Oops...
Title: Re: Ivory carved chinese cabinet doors?
Post by: mart on April 29, 2016, 03:31:24 PM
Ha !!  My brain fog cleared for a moment !!   :)