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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: kathyv43 on August 03, 2016, 05:57:24 PM
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I am decorating my porch and bought this old rocking chair to re-do. Does anyone know if it's an antique or just old? Thanks.
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It's an old antique, ca. 1900 I'd say. :)
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"YUP", ...... and probably "Golden Oak" if refinished.
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I am thinking more 20`s or 30`s walnut !! Can you take a close up of the top of the arm !! Really can`t see well in these pics !!
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Hmmmm, I'd bet 1900 ish, eastlake crest rail with mission style arm rests & legs and, I'll go with golden oak as well!
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I am thinking more 20`s or 30`s walnut !! Can you take a close up of the top of the arm !! Really can`t see well in these pics !!
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No doubt about it, I am correct, the old woman is wrong! BAM!
One can clearly see the "rays" or figure of quarter sawn oak on arm rests.
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I uploaded and "lightened" up one of the picture.
The grain in the arm-rest looks like oak .... but can't see the grain in the chair back.
To wit:
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I uploaded and "lightened" up one of the picture.
The grain in the arm-rest looks like oak .... but can't see the grain in the chair back.
To wit:
Not sure if this helps.
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Darn,, Helps those guys,,not me !! ;D Guess I have to give them a brownie point and go clean my glasses !!
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This is what happens when you get old! Can't see & can't hear, women get old, men get distinguished! BAM!
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No doubt about it, I am correct, the old woman is wrong! BAM!
Oh,, Have you got one coming Jacon4 !! Just wait !! I will get you !! :D
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dream on old woman! My fastball is UNHITTABLE! BAM!
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Darn,, Helps those guys,,not me !! ;D Guess I have to give them a brownie point and go clean my glasses !!
I was going to give you a karma point..just for being harassed...but I can't give karma points...sorry lol
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I was going to give you a karma point..just for being harassed...but I can't give karma points...sorry lol
Geez, how come?
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I was going to give you a karma point..just for being harassed...but I can't give karma points...sorry lol
Geez, how come?
Because she has helped me so much...and then all the men were teaming up on her lol (girl power!)
But then again...you all have helped so much!
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But why can't you give her a karma point?
hey, somebody just gave me a demerit or whatever those silly things are!
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But why can't you give her a karma point?
They don't show up...not sure why...maybe I haven't been a member long enough.
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it's probably based on number of postings you have, i am guessing you need a certain number to do that.
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May have been Mart that gave you the demerit...for all the harassment lol😀
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I'll give her a karma point for you, i don't think i've ever done that actually, the whole thing is rather silly really. She knows i am just teasing her, it's kinda fun tormenting Martha every now & them, make sure she's not asleep! plus forum is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwww, a lil drama can't hurt!
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Woe be to her if she did! I'll take back my karma point thingy!
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I'll give her a karma point for you, i don't think i've ever done that actually, the whole thing is rather silly really. She knows i am just teasing her, it's kinda fun tormenting Martha every now & them, make sure she's not asleep! plus forum is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwwww, a lil drama can't hurt!
Thanks and I know you're only joking...I got a smile out of it!
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LOL !! No problem about the karma point !! Thanks for the thought !! Yes,, this forum is designed to only let you give karma points or to smite someone after a certain number of postings !! I forget how many !! That is for those one timers that get PO`d for various reasons and then never come back !!
Good thing about this forum is we can go on like this and no one gets PO`d !! We all love each other !! I joined a forum a while back and it was like WWlll,, I did not go back !!
That reminds me,, I have to go give two karma points now !! Darn,, !!
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I think karma point giving comes only after 100 posts, not sure.
I should smite all of you, JUST BECAUSE!!
But I don't play that. Instead, you all get an applause/karma point because you play so endearingly together.
Back to business. Something's been bothering me about the rocker. Could the arms have been replaced in the craftsman era? That way we'd have a rocker that's both oak and walnut.
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I have no idea. I will clean it up some and take pics of the different parts of it.
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Yes, you are only allowed to praise or smite somebody after you have 100 posts.
PeLady
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This piece i think demonstrates my argument about what took place at the start of the 20th century in america. For half a century prior, victorian furniture of various styles in walnut dominated the american scene, it was affordable, plentiful and built on an enormous scale for a large and growing middle class. In 1900, all that changed, first off, walnut was getting expensive due to over cutting and 2, the style changed dramatically to the craftsman/mission style with quarter sawn oak as the primary wood. If you were a small manufacturer and could not afford to buy all new machines all at once to accommodate this new style era, what could you do?
If this chair is all quarter sawn oak (hard to tell with pics), that crest rail gives it away, it is clearly a late eastlake shallow relief carving with the rest of the chair in a somewhat awkward attempt at the new mission style. This guy took his existing machines that built victorian and did the best he could with what he had to work with. It happened a lot.
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Woe be to her if she did! I'll take back my karma point thingy!
Twas not me !! I have never smited anyone !!
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Raises an eyebrow at martha! Even if you did, i don't care, that whole karma thingy to me is quite silly and childish although i know some here don't feel the same as i do about it. BRING IT ON! SMITE AWAY OLD WOMAN! BAM!
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No !! I had rather just argue my point !! As any true Texan would !! :D
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According to Sam Houston, Texan's don't know jack about furniture! BAM! He was veryyyyyyyyyyyyyy disappointed in Texas furniture!
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This piece i think demonstrates my argument about what took place at the start of the 20th century in america. For half a century prior, victorian furniture of various styles in walnut dominated the american scene, it was affordable, plentiful and built on an enormous scale for a large and growing middle class. In 1900, all that changed, first off, walnut was getting expensive due to over cutting and 2, the style changed dramatically to the craftsman/mission style with quarter sawn oak as the primary wood. If you were a small manufacturer and could not afford to buy all new machines all at once to accommodate this new style era, what could you do?
If this chair is all quarter sawn oak (hard to tell with pics), that crest rail gives it away, it is clearly a late eastlake shallow relief carving with the rest of the chair in a somewhat awkward attempt at the new mission style. This guy took his existing machines that built victorian and did the best he could with what he had to work with. It happened a lot.
Ah, my point!! (more or less)
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Is this a rather short chair? When I view the seat and bottom of the rocker it reminds me of the "Fireplace Rocker" (later called a sewing rocker) from the early 1900's that was "hearth height" to keep one warm. I agree that the arms just aren't the same "style" as I would expect to go with the back woodwork of the chair (More mission style) - but it looks like it has aged with the chair (from what I can see in the pictures.)
I'll be seeing Sam (Houston that is) next week on my way to my daughter's. He is so doggone out of place standing along the highway! (stands 70' tall) I don't know as I would call him a furniture expert tho'!
You are driving south on Hwy 45 and you just pass the Texas State Penitentiary of Huntsville (Prison for those of you that don't know the nicer sounding term) then BAM (stealing from jacon4) There is Sam standing in the trees on the side of the highway all by himself! Nothing else around! He is huge!
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/27/f9/97/27f997e517b9bc79835c111d703dbf1c.jpg)
(http://www.oscarmail.net/houstonfreeways/images/i45_houston_dallas/i45_huntsville_statue_far_19_2004-11-28_770.jpg)
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I agree that the arms just aren't the same "style" as I would expect to go with the back woodwork of the chair (More mission style) - but it looks like it has aged with the chair (from what I can see in the pictures.)
A thoughtful analysis, but I would say that the arms are out of scale, and I would also say that a historical alteration from the 1920s could easily age to a patina matching the earlier ca. 1900 chair. After 100 years it's all dark. 8)
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It is a shorter rocking chair.
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lol, dang, he's bigger than the trees almost! And, i bet ol Sam is STILL pissed about his texas furniture!