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Title: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Raven31557 on August 30, 2016, 11:14:19 AM: Can somebody plz tell me who made this?
It's only 7" high.

Thank-you in advance!!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: ghopper1924 on August 30, 2016, 11:29:13 AM: I don't know the mark, but that's one beautiful pitcher!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Raven31557 on August 30, 2016, 12:00:01 PM: ikr??!!

I don't even know if I got the mark facing the correct way.
lol
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Ipcress on August 30, 2016, 12:01:03 PM: What's the impressed word ?

The mark is a Crown, laurel wreath, letter P

i think
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Raven31557 on August 30, 2016, 02:03:14 PM: Quote from: Ipcress on August 30, 2016, 12:01:03 PM
What's the impressed word ?

It doesn't have one.
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: mart on August 30, 2016, 04:22:27 PM: Flip it upside down !! Its scalloped along the edge not pointed like a crown !! Think nosegay !! The protrusion at the "now" top is what a Victorian lady would hold in her hand !! What I do not get is the greenery where flowers normally are !!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: KC on August 30, 2016, 09:54:00 PM: Definitely not a mark I have seen before. Like the pitcher!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Ipcress on August 31, 2016, 05:04:51 AM: It's a crown or coronet, Mart.

Similar to this in design

http://antique-marks.com/wp-content/uploads/Staffordhire-Thomas-Green-Fenton-Mark-120x120.jpg

There are definitely some impressed marks on the base
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: KC on August 31, 2016, 11:42:32 AM: I agree. The crown or coronet are common in pottery marks. Don't believe I have ever seen a nosegay/tussie mussie as a porcelain mark.
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Raven31557 on August 31, 2016, 11:58:01 AM: So I finally stumped the band?
lol
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: ghopper1924 on August 31, 2016, 01:58:31 PM: Quote from: Raven31557 on August 31, 2016, 11:58:01 AM
So I finally stumped the band?
lol

Yes you did, and your penalty is to send that pitcher to me in honor of your achievement! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Raven31557 on August 31, 2016, 02:39:58 PM: Oh.
i c
Well . . . ummmmm. . .
ok
I just . . .
Wait . . .WHAT??!!!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: ghopper1924 on August 31, 2016, 02:44:43 PM: Errr...don't think about it, just sent it to me.....unburden yourself....you are getting sleepy......sleepy. ......sleeeeeeeeppp yyy........
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Raven31557 on August 31, 2016, 03:30:26 PM: Alright.
Here it is.
*YAWN*
I hope you enjoy . . .
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

drat
You have Gorilla Glue, right?
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: mart on August 31, 2016, 04:46:28 PM: Would you just humor an old woman and flip that pic upside down ?? I have looked through crown marks for three days and have found nothing even remotely similar to this !!
Yes,, I know Ipcress,, we Americans are just not as familiar with crowns as you are,, But I just do not see a crown !! Looks more like scallops or petals at the top !!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: ghopper1924 on August 31, 2016, 04:48:26 PM: Quote from: Raven31557 on August 31, 2016, 03:30:26 PM
Alright.
Here it is.
*YAWN*
I hope you enjoy . . .
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

drat
You have Gorilla Glue, right?

I'll thank you not to joke about such things!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: mart on August 31, 2016, 04:53:59 PM: Don`t worry Raven31557,, it will fit in a smaller box that way !!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: KC on August 31, 2016, 09:33:08 PM: Am I seeing correctly that the mark is blue?

Is the inside entire glazed? Does it feel heavy for it's size?
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: cogar on September 01, 2016, 07:25:33 AM: Here is a different view of the "mark".

But the orientation of the "mark" in the 1st post is correct.

It is listed as a "crown & circle or oval crown and shield" on Page 111 in Kovels' Dictionary of Marks.

To wit:

Ludwig Wessel
Bonn, Rhineland, Germany (W. Germany)
Porcelain
ca 1887 - 1907 (1885 - present)
(Wessel Ceramics Works AG)
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: ghopper1924 on September 01, 2016, 07:58:28 AM: Well done! A point for Cogar.
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: mart on September 01, 2016, 08:01:26 AM: LOL !! Thanks Cogar,,!! But do these people that design the marks know what a crown is supposed to look like ?? Yes,, perhaps it is because I am an American and a Texan that my notion of a crown mark is much different !! Last pic looks perfectly right to me !!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Raven31557 on September 01, 2016, 09:54:48 AM: Quote from: KC on August 31, 2016, 09:33:08 PM
Am I seeing correctly that the mark is blue?

Is the inside entire glazed? Does it feel heavy for it's size?

The mark is forest green.
Yes, it's glazed on the inside, too.
Not terribly heavy. I'd say about 2 pounds.
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: mart on September 01, 2016, 11:37:32 AM: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Art-Pottery-Vase-Ludwig-Wessel-Bonn-Rhineland-Germany-/390703564969

Makes much more sense when seeing a good stamp with the initials !!
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Raven31557 on September 01, 2016, 12:05:57 PM: ah HA!!
tyvm!

Now I can peruse Whosie Wessel's stuff to see if I can find a match.
:D
Title: Re: Another odd Marker's Mark
Post by: Ipcress on September 01, 2016, 01:20:42 PM: Brilliant, Cogar !

So the P underneath stands for Poppelsdorf.