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Title: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: markandouk on October 17, 2016, 01:00:47 PM
Hello All,
I bought this lamp in December 2015, The seller said that she has had it in her possession for many years and that she had the wire upgraded so it can still be used, I was not interested in that as I bought it purely because I liked it, an also I had never seen a one like this before, After trying to find out some information on this I just drew a blank, I have searched Thousands of photos and can't see a one like it, I have come across Tiffany Style Dragonfly Lamps but again none that are like this, it has no makers mark on anywhere that I can see, it is glass with lead holding the glass in, I paid £150 for this and I was happy to pay that, I did advertise for sale just to see what interest I would have, shocked that I was offered £680 I then removed it, Even at £680 I would not sell it as I like it to much (personal preference) any help or information on a one very similar would be great, If more photo's are required I can send them on,

Kind Regards
Mark Anderson
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: ghopper1924 on October 17, 2016, 03:15:27 PM

It looks to me like someone made it as a project. It's not a direct copy, like the new Tiffanies, but the work does seem to be hand-done, probably in the 1970s when there was a stained glass revival. I'd say that the high offer you got was exceptional, but if you love it then it's priceless.
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: debc on October 17, 2016, 04:53:46 PM
It is beautiful, so much fun to find something we really love.
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: mart on October 17, 2016, 06:34:13 PM
Overstock.com has some Tiffany style lamps with stained glass bases that light up !!   Does this one have a light in the base ??
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: ghopper1924 on October 17, 2016, 11:35:21 PM
Yep, it looks like this one does indeed have a "lighthouse" base.
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: mart on October 18, 2016, 06:00:24 AM
I do not think its a project lamp !!  There is a rounded area on the base that would be the pits to get right !! 
Can we get a close up pic of the lamp base ??  Its a beautiful lamp,, I would not sell it either !!
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: ghopper1924 on October 18, 2016, 06:27:52 AM
An accomplished project lamp, but still a project lamp. That's why Mark (and I, for that matter) can't find any similar models. The base is cylindrical and does not resemble the squat or vase-like lighthouse bases of the Meyda and Dale Tiffany repros, both of which are based on L.C. Tiffany precedents.

I think Mark got his money's worth on this, but I wouldn't value it at a lot more than that.  It's a beautiful lamp, and obviously took the craftsman a considerable amount of time to assemble. I'd keep it, too.
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: cogar on October 18, 2016, 11:00:47 AM
IMHO, ...... I think it is a production lamp ....... and not a "home project" produce one.

I found these new ones ...............

(http://ak1.ostkcdn.com/images/products/8757620/Tiffany-Style-Victorian-Motif-Double-lit-Table-Lamp-P16000818.jpg)
Chloe Tiffany Style Victorian Design Double Lit 2+1-light Table Lamp

https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Chloe-Tiffany-Style-Victorian-Design-Double-Lit-2-1-light-Table-Lamp/8757620/product.html (https://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/Chloe-Tiffany-Style-Victorian-Design-Double-Lit-2-1-light-Table-Lamp/8757620/product.html)


(https://d38eepresuu519.cloudfront.net/db100851d88c5ccb112799991a03b2ad/medium.jpg)

Tiffany-style Dragonfly Double Lit Mini Lamp

Find picture here:   Rosie's Tiffany Home
https://tophatter.com/auctions/58808?filter=sold (https://tophatter.com/auctions/58808?filter=sold)

https://tophatter.com/auctions/58808?filter=sold&page=1 (https://tophatter.com/auctions/58808?filter=sold&page=1)

Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: ghopper1924 on October 18, 2016, 11:20:22 AM
Neither one bears a resemblance to our subject lamp - besides the fact that they're stained glass -  but whatever.
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: markandouk on October 18, 2016, 12:29:18 PM
Hello All

Firstly thanks for all the input, I am inclined to go with Ghopper and that it was a project lamp,
here are some more pictures. I will also get a close up of the base once I am home.

Thanks again.
Mark
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: ghopper1924 on October 18, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
Ahhh SNAP!! ;D
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: mart on October 18, 2016, 06:39:43 PM
Didn`t think about it earlier but it possible this lamp done by a professional in an independent stained glass studio !!  We have a studio that does stained glass in the next town and she is always making her own variation of things she sees on the internet !!  If thats the case you will not find another like it !!  Perhaps that is why it looks professionally done by someone who knows the trade !!  Not an amateur for sure !!
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: ghopper1924 on October 18, 2016, 07:01:59 PM
In other words....a project! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: mart on October 18, 2016, 07:40:50 PM
LOL !!! Project by a pro !!  ;D
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: KC on October 18, 2016, 11:41:11 PM
I would say a "Custom Mosaic Lamp"!  :)
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: cogar on October 19, 2016, 05:10:32 AM
Now I’se wasa thinking that …… just making the “forms” (a least 3 of them) that were needed for making Markandouk’s lamp …… would have been quite a “project” in themselves.  ;D ;D ;D

Mold makers, die makers, form makers, etc., all require a tad bit of expertise for doing said. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: markandouk on October 19, 2016, 09:11:36 AM
Once Again

I can not thank you Guy's enough for all your comments. here are some more pictures as requested. and I am still going with your thoughts of a project.

Regards
Mark
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: markandouk on October 19, 2016, 09:12:36 AM
and the last Picture
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: markandouk on October 19, 2016, 09:17:58 AM
If you have a look at the picture of the underside of the shade, you can see that it does not look as tidy as what you would expect of a reproduction lamp, this is only noticeable on this place on the inside, and to me the outer side looks great, and again after hours of searching I can not come up with a one like it,

anyway, I love My Lamp and to me I got a good deal, :-)

Regards
Mark
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: Rauville on October 19, 2016, 09:39:17 AM
Maybe you've already used it, but I've spent some time on the following lamp site: http://leadedlamps.com/index.html (http://leadedlamps.com/index.html) in the past and found it interesting.
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: markandouk on October 19, 2016, 09:54:36 AM
Thanks Rauville, I have not used that site I will have a look,

Regards
Mark
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: ghopper1924 on October 19, 2016, 10:07:13 AM
Rauville! Where've you been?
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: mart on October 19, 2016, 02:18:03 PM
Don`t ask,, Ghopper !!  Just be thankful that he is back !!  Good to have you back Rauville !!
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: mart on October 19, 2016, 02:19:56 PM
Would be helpful to know what the form for the base is made of !!
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: ghopper1924 on October 19, 2016, 02:53:53 PM
Don`t ask,, Ghopper !!  Just be thankful that he is back !!  Good to have you back Rauville !!

Hmmm, it seems that SOME people are well informed, while the rest of us must toil in darkness...... ;) :(
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: cogar on October 20, 2016, 04:52:25 AM
Here are pictures of a couple leaded “stained glass” lamp shade forms or molds (whichever your prefer to call them. Personally, I prefer calling them "lampshade forms" because they are akin to "dress forms") ..... and also an included url link to “project” instructions for making yourself one of those beautiful lamp shades and/or lamps.

(http://www.streamlineworkspace.com/Uploads/54/SANY0443.jpg)
(http://art-of-stained-glass.com/4wordenanemones.jpg)

ART OF STAINED GLASS LAMPSHADE INSTRUCTIONS
How to make a stained glass lampshade
 Several methods exist:
http://art-of-stained-glass.com/1lamps.html (http://art-of-stained-glass.com/1lamps.html)
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: mart on October 20, 2016, 06:27:21 AM
That is a lot of very tedious work !! Do not think I will be making those !!
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: ghopper1924 on October 20, 2016, 12:04:55 PM
Considering that recent ones go for around $200-$300, this basically amounts to slave labor!  :(
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: cogar on October 20, 2016, 02:16:44 PM
If ya have one of these, cutting all those different "stained glass" pieces for assembling a lamp shade .......... is the least of you problems.   

water jet glass machine cutting stained glass cnc cutting machine 

US $31,000 - 71,000 /

https://head21.en.alibaba.com/product/60050330355-800197256/water_jet_glass_machine_cutting_stained_glass_cnc_cutting_machine.html (https://head21.en.alibaba.com/product/60050330355-800197256/water_jet_glass_machine_cutting_stained_glass_cnc_cutting_machine.html)
Title: Re: Dragonfly Lamp
Post by: markandouk on October 20, 2016, 04:07:14 PM
Hi the base is also made out of stained glass. Which seems to have a coating on.