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Title: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on February 15, 2017, 04:26:08 PM
I've seen similar styles of this from Royal Copley.
There is no discernible mark on the bottom, so I'm not at all sure this is Royal Copley or a knock-off.
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on February 16, 2017, 04:56:04 PM
Does anybody know what Royal Copley's makers mark looks like?
or even if they have one?

According to what I've seen they're not worth much over $20 anyway,
so maybe I should just slap a price on this little guy and call it a day.
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: mart on February 16, 2017, 08:24:13 PM
Most of their marks were applied via stick on labels !!  Yours looks like one of their designs !!  I would say it is and price at $20.
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Rauville on February 16, 2017, 09:49:49 PM
"Most" (but not 100%) of the RC pieces were produced with a glazed bottom and raised bars to protect the glaze when being fired.
(http://assets.suredone.com/1662/media-photo/mtv1222-vintage-pennsylvania-dutch-amish-farm-boy-royal-copley-planter-head-vase-rare-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on February 17, 2017, 11:54:40 AM
Thanks you two!!

This isn't RC, but, 20 bux it is.

I grow weary of all this searching.
 :-\
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on February 18, 2017, 11:48:13 AM
Someone on etsy is selling a RC figurine and is showing the bottom.
It appears to have the beginning of "Roy......" etched into the material.
Hmmmmm
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on February 18, 2017, 01:54:57 PM
GAH!!
I just noticed my little figurine has a hairline crack all the way around the circumference at his "waist".
 >:(
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: mart on February 18, 2017, 08:23:45 PM
Quite a few had Royal Copley impressed on bottom !!  Not all had the ridges on bottom !!  There is a Royal Copely Collectors group you can check !!
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on February 19, 2017, 06:26:52 PM
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
I never thought of that!
Thx for the tip!!
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: mart on February 20, 2017, 06:03:41 PM
Ooops !!   PeLady !!  This is Royal Copley !!  That mark is Royal Copenhagen !!
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Pelady on February 20, 2017, 06:07:19 PM
 :o. Oops
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: mart on February 20, 2017, 06:11:01 PM
LOL !!  Pulling some of my tricks are ya` ??   ;D
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: KC on February 21, 2017, 10:39:53 AM
It's contagious at times Mart!  :)
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: mart on February 22, 2017, 08:22:14 AM
Must be !!  I can not tell you the number of times I have spent 30 minutes looking for a mark and double checked to see it was the wrong one !!  Then you say to yourself,, What a DA I am !!
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on February 24, 2017, 04:51:56 PM
There is a Royal Copely Collectors group you can check !!

wow
What a confusing Forum that RC is!!
 :o
I finally got my pix up on it.
Just waiting for a reply from one of their 37 members.
Clearly, not a big interest in RC.
 ;)
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on February 28, 2017, 11:17:10 AM
10 days later.........
11 views 0 replies
 :(
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: mart on February 28, 2017, 11:26:32 AM
Mmmm,,,Moving on !!
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on May 15, 2017, 12:11:54 PM
I've seen similar styles of this from Royal Copley.
There is no discernible mark on the bottom, so I'm not at all sure this is Royal Copley or a knock-off.

I finally got a reply on the RC Collectors forum.
I thought this info would be helpful to everybody...

Raven,
This does not appear to be a Royal Copley piece. Some of the characteristics of RC include:
-two or more runners on the bottom, thin rails on the bottom in the case of RC. For reference, only a very few early pieces (small vases mostly) were done with a flat un-glazed bottom.
- paint over top of the glaze. One dead giveaway for a piece of RC is the fact that all paint was done before glazing. If the black paint on your piece is done after the piece was glazed it would indicate another pottery.
RC did a number of oriental themed pieces including planters similar to this and these pieces are often miss-identified as RC in antique malls.

In the 50's there were several potteries that copied RC designs and turned out similar pieces.

My guess is that your piece is an import. RC had an increasing amount of import competition and this became a challenge to RC by the mid-50's and probably contributed to the decision to close Spaulding China in 1957. I'm sure the Webmaster will add comments and he is the resident expert but we have been collecting for over 7 years and so I feel confident the info I'm sharing is accurate.

The piece is lovely and no less important as a part of your family and so I'm sure you will cherish it regardless of origin.
Hope this info helps
Scott
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: ghopper1924 on May 15, 2017, 12:53:41 PM
Wow, great information from Scott! Kudos! :)
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: mart on May 15, 2017, 02:02:31 PM
Now that is a proper answer !!  Thanks Scott !!
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: Raven31557 on May 15, 2017, 03:23:10 PM
YES!!
I thanked him profusely on that forum.
 ;D
Title: Re: Royal Copley?
Post by: mart on May 15, 2017, 07:16:21 PM
Tell him that not only helps you,, it helps us as well !!  I knew about the bars and Rauville posted it but I did not know that those that were made without them were only vases !!