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Title: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: mart on May 07, 2017, 04:20:02 PM
https://www.kovels.com/discussions/question/unidentified-cherry-blossom-love-bird-vase.html

Looks like an English mark to me,, maybe import mark !!
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: Mat on May 07, 2017, 04:56:17 PM
My first impression is Vietnamese, but I have to look at it again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: Mat on May 07, 2017, 05:02:28 PM
Maybe the mark is upside down and reads "Vietnam" and Dona"?
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: mart on May 07, 2017, 06:17:03 PM
I couldn`t see it well enough to read it !!  Looks like its smeared which leads me to think import mark!!  They are usually on top of the glaze and are often smudged !!
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: Mat on May 08, 2017, 12:29:44 AM
Mart, compare the mark on this one, I think it is the same: http://www.instappraisal.com/appraisal/vietnam-dona-vase The pieces with this or similar marks of Dona Artexport Saigon, Vietnam are all dated 1950s-1970s, and I guess that is about right. I do not think there was much export after the war in Vietnam, and older seems unlikely.
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: Ipcress on May 08, 2017, 05:53:15 AM
Is this really mid 20th Vietnamese ? The quality looks too good.
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: mart on May 08, 2017, 05:59:45 AM
Didn`t think about the mark being upside down but it is the same mark !!  Thanks Mat !!
I agree Ipcress,, quality is good,, thats why I thought English pottery !! 
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: Mat on May 08, 2017, 06:02:36 AM
Ipcress, how would you date it? The other possibility, IMO, is that it is very new. But I could not find any totally reliable info about that company. I have seen quite a few in similar quality in thrift stores, but always without info on them, of course...
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: Mat on May 08, 2017, 07:38:47 AM
One hint could be that variations of that mark have the name of Saigon, which was renamed in Ho-Chi-Minh City in 1976, so a date before that seems likely to me.
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: Ipcress on May 08, 2017, 07:43:14 AM
The date might be right, Mat. It doesn't appear to be faked crazing on the base, and there are other examples of quality pottery bearing ( what should logically be ) earlier maker's marks. However, i think they're more recent but the one posted earlier in the thread has just " aged " due to storage.

https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/18914118

That's by the same company but i cannot find any info ( although i searched only for about two minutes ).

This one is also Dona, as fresh as the morning dew yet bares the " earlier " mark

https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/51301706_vietnam-vietnamese-dona-vase-art-pottery

I expect they're a modern company producing quality vases for export. And i quite like them !!!!
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: Mat on May 08, 2017, 07:59:43 AM
I wonder if this enterprise is related, As the name "Artexport" appears in combination with "Dona" on some marks: https://www.gmdu.net/corp-373494.html They exist since 1964 and are still in business.
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: mart on May 08, 2017, 07:47:49 PM
I have looked  at some of their items ,,most are quite nice and well done !!  That first one sold for $275. but anything with a dragon on it usually sells better than others !!
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: KC on May 09, 2017, 08:16:32 AM
Nothing I an offer on this one.  Think you'uns got this one covered!  :)
Title: Re: Ipcress,,Mat !! Anyone seen this mark ??
Post by: mart on May 09, 2017, 02:40:47 PM
LOL !!  Not me !!  I could not find my derriere with both hands !!  Thats when I ask the smart people !!