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Title: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jerryk on May 16, 2017, 05:08:37 PM
A stained old painting covered in dust when i found it. Paint loss on several areas, cracks and dirt  and a few holes in the canvas , i can barely make out the signature , hard to pick it up on camera the artist used a dark color on the lower right hand side , i think i possibly see maybe an e and an S and maybe an h or n, anyone familiar would be a great help , it was a find i was curious about 24x16

the back is heavily stained from age the wood frame has seen better days, the canvas it self has become brittle along the edges , thats all i can really say , thanks in advance
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: mart on May 17, 2017, 08:45:26 AM
Can we see the back please !!  May sound gross but you can put saliva on a cotton swab to clean the area of the signature !!  Just work it in a circular motion till all the dirt is gone !!  That may brighten it up so we can see it !!
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jerryk on May 17, 2017, 09:17:01 AM
thanks mart , took me 5 swabs to clear it up more , took some more photos
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jerryk on May 17, 2017, 09:17:50 AM
another
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jerryk on May 17, 2017, 09:19:00 AM
its hard to see the name could be maybe 4 or 5 characters long , might be a v , so hard to tell
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: mart on May 17, 2017, 07:53:03 PM
There is a glare over the name !!  I can see the 1925 date and that is consistant with how the stretcher is made !!
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jerryk on May 18, 2017, 05:28:45 AM
wow you can see that? i put another picture maybe its clearer ?
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: mart on May 18, 2017, 06:06:13 AM
No,, Thats worse !!  Are you using a flash ?? Try taking it without a flash !!  The date is below the name !!
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jerryk on May 18, 2017, 06:10:19 AM
no flash just a sunny morning , i have a skylight in my bedroom, ill try again :( thank you for helping
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jerryk on May 18, 2017, 04:44:26 PM
not sure if this is better :(
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jondar on May 18, 2017, 05:08:45 PM
I ran the pic thru the "Picture Enhancer" which came with the Windows 10 .  As close as these old bloodshot eyes can tell five letters were shebe or sheba. But  I wouldn't bet money on it, because I couldn't find the 1925 that Mart mentioned.
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: mart on May 19, 2017, 08:39:33 AM
Look at reply #3,, then click and enlarge it !!  You can see some light spots on the left,, just to the lower right of the light spots is the 1925 !!   Now I have cheaters on but I can see it and my eyes are not that good !!  Just look from a normal range,, not too close !!
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jondar on May 20, 2017, 07:04:06 AM
Yes, I see what you are describing, looks like printing, I just can't get resolution fine enough to make letters out of it.  I'll keep working on it.
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jerryk on May 20, 2017, 07:47:59 AM
I still cant see it but i trust you all do, still trying to see it :(
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: mart on May 20, 2017, 06:31:52 PM
Don`t look at the painting,,look at the reply#3 pic,, right in the center !!  Its pretty clear even without enlarging !!
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Post by: KC on May 21, 2017, 12:12:59 PM
In the 1930's Gypsy paintings were again a real craze!  Also, the Pre-Raphaelite paintings had a touch of this style.
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: mart on May 21, 2017, 02:23:13 PM
True, and the 1925  year would be correct  !!  Late 20`s into the 1930`s !!
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: jerryk on May 27, 2017, 08:44:04 AM
is it possible this was painted before the 20's or 30's i removed one nail and looks almost hand made , i dunno were nails used during the 30's?
Title: Re: Old oil painting , curious if it looks familiar or perhaps period
Post by: mart on May 27, 2017, 10:28:45 AM
Can yoiu post a pic of one of the nails !!  Are they nails or flat sided framers tacks ??   Yes nails were used in the 20`s and 30`s !!