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Title: Vintage/Antique? Presidential Paper Document w/ Leather Pouch (Estate Find)
Post by: valhom on August 17, 2017, 01:59:07 PM
Posting for a friend. He found this while cleaning out a house, estate. Came inside a very worn leather pouch. Does this seem legit? Or is it just a copy? May need to be looked at in person. But. I was wondering if anyone ever came across something like this before. Thank you.
Title: Re: Vintage/Antique? Presidential Paper Document w/ Leather Pouch (Estate Find)
Post by: valhom on August 17, 2017, 02:10:07 PM
Here are some close up pics.

(https://s21.postimg.org/at80ga5zr/IMG_0602.jpg)

(https://s3.postimg.org/5ikzl7dlf/IMG_0603.jpg)

(https://s29.postimg.org/3uvi1o1mf/IMG_0604.jpg)

(https://s4.postimg.org/4wm6431r1/IMG_0605.jpg)
Title: Re: Vintage/Antique? Presidential Paper Document w/ Leather Pouch (Estate Find)
Post by: Rauville on August 17, 2017, 03:55:33 PM
From here, it looks good to me. Appears to have been prepared and signed by his eldest son Abraham, who was acting as his secretary.
Compare with this one: http://www.historyforsale.com/abraham-van-buren-land-grant-signed-03-16-1837/dc32360 (http://www.historyforsale.com/abraham-van-buren-land-grant-signed-03-16-1837/dc32360)
Title: Re: Vintage/Antique? Presidential Paper Document w/ Leather Pouch (Estate Find)
Post by: KC on August 17, 2017, 04:55:42 PM
This is an interesting article for you to read about "the legally forged president's signature"!

We have seen only a few of these on here over the years.

https://scrc1.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/when-the-president-signed-every-land-grant/ (https://scrc1.wordpress.com/2010/12/10/when-the-president-signed-every-land-grant/)
Title: Re: Vintage/Antique? Presidential Paper Document w/ Leather Pouch (Estate Find)
Post by: mart on August 17, 2017, 07:23:43 PM
Looks good to me too !!
Title: Re: Vintage/Antique? Presidential Paper Document w/ Leather Pouch (Estate Find)
Post by: KC on August 21, 2017, 08:41:55 AM
I might add...a wonderful piece of history that looks well preserved!

Title: Re: Vintage/Antique? Presidential Paper Document w/ Leather Pouch (Estate Find)
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on August 23, 2017, 07:59:50 PM
Wow ... that is REALLY cool! I think this is definitely worth having someone take a  hands on look at it.  Looking forward to hearing more about it! What a great find!
Title: Re: Vintage/Antique? Presidential Paper Document w/ Leather Pouch (Estate Find)
Post by: Tanya on August 25, 2017, 03:26:55 PM
Posting for a friend. He found this while cleaning out a house, estate. Came inside a very worn leather pouch. Does this seem legit? Or is it just a copy? May need to be looked at in person. But. I was wondering if anyone ever came across something like this before. Thank you.

Looks totally authentic to me.  I imagine that the ground might also be parchment and not paper as there is no decay and paper that old having been folded would more than likely show some disintegration.