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Title: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: susiecat on November 26, 2017, 06:02:27 PM
I've had this drawing of an old bull about 25 years.I bought an artist folder with many drawings and paings.Need some information please.
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: mart on November 27, 2017, 07:10:07 AM
The bulls head is out of proportion to the body !!
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: susiecat on November 27, 2017, 11:42:06 AM
I know,I have an old animal book from around 1890's and yes the bull head look like this drawing.it's a smaller picture but the head look smaller for some reason
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: mart on November 27, 2017, 02:54:09 PM
Being in Texas and in cattle country, Besides having run a few head myself I am pretty familiar with cattle in general !!  You will find that in England many are represented in a similar way !!  Don`t know why but livestock are frequently drawn with small heads !!  Have particularly noticed in horses which may be because the refined head indicated good breeding !!
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: susiecat on November 27, 2017, 09:11:41 PM
I know my pictures in my book show small head horses.Thanks Mart
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: cogar on November 28, 2017, 05:23:43 AM
Mart is correct, ...... but also in America.

Now I do not know why …… but 18th and 19th Century “primitive” and/or ”folk art” paintings of cattle were notorious for having small heads in comparison to extreme body size, like so:
 
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/4a/a4/ce4aa48e4a5a952fc66f1e91cd8fdb57.jpg)

Source of above photo:  https://www.pinterest.com/pin/450922981421937359/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/450922981421937359/)

Just do a Google "image search" for ...... 'primitive paintings'


Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: mart on November 28, 2017, 08:03:01 AM
Darn Cogar,, that one is absolutely grotesque !!
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: cogar on November 28, 2017, 02:27:32 PM
Mart, the 17th thru the 19th Century was a time when affluent farmers and land barons were greatly concerned with having “bragging rights” for the superb livestock (horses, cattle and sheep) that they bred, bought and/or owned, ..... and the fact that photography had not been invented yet, …… they commissioned artists to paint pictures of their favorite animals as “proof” that they owned the finest to be had.

Like these 2 primitives, to wit:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4c/55/75/4c5575d195aa488b19ce701b61cefb13.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4c/7e/29/4c7e29f212dcb88f43ae8339bb991bf7--craft-shop-country-primitive.jpg)
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: susiecat on November 28, 2017, 06:43:45 PM
Thanks all! do anybody know the artist
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: SophieMarie on December 02, 2017, 09:57:10 PM
It looks like M Rossi to me!
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: susiecat on December 02, 2017, 10:22:10 PM
Thanks that's what I throught but been googling that name for a long time,I don't see a primitive artist by that name.Usually I'll try myself to look for items.
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: mart on December 03, 2017, 03:37:47 PM
It looks like M Rossi to me!

I spent two days looking for M. Rossi and M. Rossi Jr. but nothing similar to this !! 
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: susiecat on December 03, 2017, 04:44:33 PM
Thanks Mart! I've looked about a year for Rossi can't find anything
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: SophieMarie on December 03, 2017, 08:30:53 PM
This may be a long stretch, but it is all I could find.  There is a Mark Rossi who know specializes in animal sculptures.  But he started art at a very early age since both parents were formalized in the fine arts.  Perhaps he drew before he sculpted...it's worth a try:
http://www.rossistudios.com/rossi2.html
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: susiecat on December 04, 2017, 02:12:03 PM
Thanks so much SophieMarie! I will search for his wok!
Title: Re: Antique Bull Pencil Drawing Signed
Post by: SophieMarie on December 05, 2017, 12:30:42 AM
You're welcome.  He has a website so you may be able to contact him!