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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: mart on January 25, 2018, 09:03:05 PM
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https://www.kovels.com/discussions/question/glass-identification.html
Not sure yet if they have the sugar lid but I have looked all day for amethyst glass with gold trim !! My eyes are turning purple !! Help please !! They want to know who made it and the age and value !! It was her father-in-laws glassware !!
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Mart,
Now please stop turning purple! I think the glassware is Early American Pressed Glass (EAPG) Northwood Amethyst Nestor, c. 1910. Here are the pictures of the butter dish and compote....still looking for the pitcher.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/262867693248?rmvSB=true
Ok, found the creamer/pitcher:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-EAPG-Northwood-Glass-Company-Amethyst-Nestor-Creamer-c-1902/131998235589?hash=item1ebbb53bc5:g:6LcAAOSwImRYIxv-
It appears Nestor was produced in Indiana, PA by National Glass Co. @ #13 (Northwood Works) 1902; Dugan 1904 (not under National) for several years (no enamel design!):
https://www.mainelyglass.com/eapg-nestor-purple-shaker
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Here is a site with the history of the Northwood Glass Company:
http://theantiquarian.us/Hist.%20Northwood.htm
Also in 1899, Harry Northwood returned to England, the National Glass Company operated the site from 1900 – 1904. From 1904 – 1913 the Dugan Glass Company operated the site.
1906 was the first year Northwood started using the N-in-a-circle as a trademark.
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Thanks SophieMarie !! The person who posted had already found that before I had time to get back !! I looked through a bunch of Northwood but didn`t find that one. Didn`t really know how to describe it !
This one is without the enameling and only has the gold,,I am wondering if Dugan or National made a plain version ??
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From what I've seen so far, the only Northwood pattern without enameling (similar to the set in question) is called Regent.
One is amethyst (which looks a bit red to me):
http://charmingscollectibles.blogspot.com/2012/08/eapg-table-sets-victorian-era.html
The other is cobalt blue:
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/northwood-regent-leaf-medallion-four-piece-tabl-899-c-6102c65187#
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I've not been able to find the Nestor pattern with gold trim WITHOUT enameling so far....
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I have not seen it either !! I even thought about it being sold before the enameling step as a second !! And of course those that worked there and other mfrs sometimes got to keep imperfect pieces !! Perhaps that is why the sugar bowl has no lid !!
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It is possible! I've seen the amethyst Nestor without gold and without enameling in other pieces such as toothpick holder and salt/pepper shaker....
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All this talk about “gold trim on amethyst” just reminded me of this pair of Cambridge “Gloria” candlesticks the wife has, ...... enjoy:
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That's a great looking set of candleholders Cogar. Do you still actively collect glass? I used to try to save what I thought was interesting, until the china cabinets got filled. Now, when the day comes to get rid of it, it will probably have to be sold by box lots.
One of my favorites would be a breakfast set of Northwood Blue Opalescent in the Paneled Holly pattern with gold.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/fe/93/38/fe93386bf42ed685a80663f7886f19d6.jpg)
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Cogar and Rauville,
Both treasures are simply beautiful!
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Cogar and Rauville,
Both treasures are simply beautiful!
Seconded. Gorgeous pieces. So sad to think of them being dispersed in box lots. :(
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Both are extremely nice !! Just tell them not to have a garage sale and let them go for pennies on the dollar !! Monetary worth is one thing but what they are worth to the person who spent time collecting them is a different matter entirely !! Can`t put a price on that !!
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Rauville, …… I luv Northwood …… and I really, really like your Blue Opalescent piece.
Me thinks there are a piece or two of Northwood “carnival” sitting on a shelf somewhere around here.
And “HA”, when I first looked at the picture Mart cited in her 1st post, ……. I sez to myself …. “there is something about that glass I like”. I guess you would call it a “vibe” …… or a “gut feeling”.
And Sophie Marie, you did a great job at researching that glassware. :) :) :)
And ps, .... iffen you are ever in need of a real challenge, ….. I have a “cranberry opalescent bowl” which I've had for like 20 years ....... that needs identified.
Sam C
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And ps, .... iffen you are ever in need of a real challenge, ….. I have a “cranberry opalescent bowl” which I've had for like 20 years ....... that needs identified
Cogar, we would love to help you identify your glassware! Don't hold back...give us the details. We aim to please!
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Cogar, we would love to help you identify your glassware! Don't hold back...give us the details. We aim to please!
Sophie, spoken like someone with a ton of confidence in their research abilities, ……. and I like that because me thinks you are really going to need it with this piece of glassware.
First a little history on my attempt at identifying the piece.
After personally querying all of the glass “experts” that I knew, or knew of, I posted pictures of the bowl on The Glass Message Board on November 25, 2007, but to no avail. Whether the “link” is still “active” or not, I do not know, but this was the url “link” to that posting, to wit:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4d37e6d29583a39bf7f8fb6087810a66&topic=18241.0 (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4d37e6d29583a39bf7f8fb6087810a66&topic=18241.0)
Next I discovered this AQF site on the Internet ….. and thus was when I posted pictures of the bowl on Antique Question Forums on January 31, 2009, and the url “link” to that posting is to wit [lots of conversation but the pictures are missing]:
http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=4243.msg9872#msg9872 (http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=4243.msg9872#msg9872)
Sophie Marie, here are the bowl’s dimensions, to wit:
Width --- outer edge – flare tip to tip - 10 ¼ to 10 ½ in.
Width --- outer edge - handle to handle – 11 ¼ in.
Height --- to top of flares --- 4 ¼ in.
And here are a couple pictures of the bowl, to wit:
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Cogar;
That's a different form than I've seen before; the handles make it quite unusual. The style and form reminds me of some of the glass Victorian epergnes. I wonder who produced those?
I haven't looked through the inventory of the dealer below...
http://www.cranberryglass.co.uk/ (http://www.cranberryglass.co.uk/)
(Side note: Have you ever watched the movie "Heart of Glass"?)
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Love, love, love seeing your treasured pieces on here! AND truly enjoy seeing all join together and to help learn and identify pieces of importance to individuals, pieces of history and pieces that just down-right confound us!
Let's hope that your gorgeous piece gets identified one day soon Cogar!
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Have you ever watched the movie "Heart of Glass"?)
Rauville, ….. “No”, I have never seen it.
Let's hope that your gorgeous piece gets identified one day soon Cogar!
KC, …….. “HA”, …. I hope so too because I DON’T have another “30 years” to be looking for a “name”. Maybe not even another 10 years. :( :(
It began about 30 years ago and took me about ten (10) years of noninfrequent “begging” and ”pleading” before the lady who owned the bowl, who lived here in Burnsville, WV, sold it to me. The only thing she knew about the bowl is that it was given to her by a little old lady many years ago.
Now given the fact that the bowl was previously owned by 2 central WV residents, ……. and the fact that there were quite a few “glass factories” located here in central WV during the past 150+ years, the bowl could have been produced at/in one of them.
But then it could have been brought here by immigrants from Europe, many, many years ago.
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My first thought was "Fenton on Steroids"...look at those appendages ha! How long are those projections anyway?
And, I agree with Rauville that the handles make it very unusual.
I tried to get a better look at the pattern from your picture by enlarging. And, was wondering if you thought there were either four leaf clovers or maybe butterflies in the pattern?
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Oh, and by the way...it is an intriguing beautiful piece!
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And, was wondering if you thought there were either four leaf clovers or maybe butterflies in the pattern?
Sophie Marie, as far as I know, there is no "repeating" pattern in the exterior surface.
Here is another picture ...... with the bowl being held up in front of the patio door .... and "natural light" in the background.
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Hi Cogar,
I wanted to let you know that there is a very interesting website called Fenton Fanatics (which has nothing at all to do with your bowl), but I know you and "the wife" like glass. Anyway, it has a section on catalogs with all the pictures from 1950-2011. So if you ever have some free time...maybe you'd like to take a peek:
http://www.fentonfan.com/catalog.html
Now about that bowl! I think what you have is a Victorian Brides Bowl. Bride's baskets or bride's bowls are usually one-of-a-kind novelties made in American and European glass factories. They were made in almost every color of art glass and most have silver-plated holders with handles. They were especially popular about 1880 when the decorated basket was often given as a wedding gift.
Here is an example of a brides bowl with petal edges:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Opalescent-Lavender-Glass-Swirl-Pattern-Petal-Edged-Antique-Bridal-Wedding-Bowl-/390645448235?nma=true&si=aXma66J%252F%252F8rIc476I4ftrIXq8fc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
And, another example of a Victorian version made in England with applied handles:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Victorian-English-Pink-White-Opalescent-Ruffled-Brides-Basket-applied-handles/112659064305?hash=item1a3b00e5f1:g:xuEAAOSwc~laG0CA
And, one more with the handles built into the stand:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Silverplate-Custard-Rubina-Verde-Glass-Brides-Basket-1890s-Antique/282828718310?hash=item41d9e7c0e6:g:PuYAAOSwoydWjudM
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There are quite a few listed on Ebay if you'd like to look...very pretty unique items:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=brides+bowl&rt=nc
And, I ended up spending too much time on Pinterest:
https://www.pinterest.com/vianablum/victorian-19th-c-brides-bowl-or-basket/
Now, we just have to figure out who made your item ha! It looks like the English were good with applied handles :)
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Thanks, ….. Sophie Marie, ….. appreciate your assistance.
And I agree with you about it being a “Bride’s Bowl” because that is what I have always figured it was.
Beautiful pieces of glass, those Bride's bowls and baskets are.
And I have always “guesstimated” it to be mid to late 1800’s simply because of the “air” bubbles in the bottom of the bowl, which one can see in that last photo I uploaded.