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Title: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: susiecat on July 09, 2018, 09:42:25 PM

I've googled for a day and can't a lot of information on the seltzer bottle.G. Morel Breteuleby Gueret Bros Paris I believe around 1913. anybody have any information.

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: mart on July 10, 2018, 08:54:25 PM

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=Gueret+Bros%2C+Paris++metal+works

4th listing gives Gueret bros, Paris and --soda !!  But thats all it says !!  But thats the town name and another listing I found gives Gueret Bros for carved furniture !!  Breteuil is also a place/town in France,,  Will look more tomorrow !! 

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: Wessito on July 10, 2018, 10:53:23 PM

We think you give us very good information. Of course, this information can help many people.

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: susiecat on July 11, 2018, 01:23:54 AM

Thanks Mart! I'm still looking

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: mart on July 12, 2018, 07:25:12 PM

You may have to look in France to find this one !!  Can`t find anything here !!  Of course  that does not make it rare or valuable more so than the others you can find !!  Just makes it harder to look up !!

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: ghopper1924 on July 12, 2018, 07:26:02 PM

Good find, Mart. Have a karma point on me.

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: mart on July 12, 2018, 07:31:49 PM

Thanks Ghopper  but I didn`t find anything,, nada  !!

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: ghopper1924 on July 12, 2018, 07:37:56 PM

Au contraire! You found a couple of good bits....certainly more than the poster knew originally.

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: KC on July 12, 2018, 09:12:41 PM

These antique French "Soda Syphons" or "Seltzer Bottles" are VERY collectible! 
They were the "in" item to have in the early 1900's to just after WWII (many of factories that produced these closed due to the war or were utilized for war time efforts). 

Gueret was/is an industrial area in France that produced these "etain sans plomb" meaning tin lead free syphons.  So not sure if the company derived it's name from the area or what.

The Gueret Brothers did have an exhibit in the 1876 Exhibition "1876 - ‎Centennial Exhibition
565 71 Guéret Bros., Paris.—Soda water machine. 565 72 Logette, Ay (Marne).—Clasps for bottles and machines for applying. 565 73 Maldine, H., Paris—Soda ..." - Catalog 1876 Centennial Exhibition.

I can find where they held patent 107,826 for a automatic index-counter for filling bottles in "The Commissioners of Patents Journals" 28th April 1875.  Also Patent 111,270 "a generator for obtaining carbonic acid gas at a small pressure" dated 31st January, 1876.

Bottlers could then purchase these "clasps" (bottle tops) and attach to their own bottles for bottle for others. 

I sure can't find anymore information on them after this.  Won't be going to France again this year or I would search it there.

The prices can range from $50 to $200 for these pieces.  Collected not only for their usage but more often for their beauty!

Any other information on the bottle?  Size?

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: susiecat on July 12, 2018, 11:17:34 PM

Thanks KC!

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: SophieMarie on July 13, 2018, 12:10:02 AM

The link below shows an example of an etched blue French siphon seltzer bottle. 

The top was made by Gueret Brothers of Paris marked etain sans plomb, translated lead free tin. The number 2858 is engraved on the spout.  Dimensions: Diameter 3.75" x Height 11.5"

https://skicountryantiques.com/products/etched-blue-french-siphon-seltzer-bottle

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: ghopper1924 on July 13, 2018, 05:59:44 AM

Beautiful!

Good one, SophieMarie!

Title: Re: Antique Rare G.Morel Breteuil Seltzer Bottle,Gueret Bros. Paris
Post by: mart on July 13, 2018, 07:33:02 PM

Excellent work ladies !!  More than I found !!  Always forget than KC collects French stuff !!  Brownie point for both of you !!