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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: JJT on June 18, 2019, 06:23:01 PM
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The last time I posted one ya'll helped out quite a bit.
If anyone has anything It'd be great to hear.
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Nice, verrrrrrrrrry nice, especially the curved glass. The feet on it dates it, me thinks, ….. hafta wait until Mart takes a look at it.
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Nice, verrrrrrrrrry nice, especially the curved glass. The feet on it dates it, me thinks, ….. hafta wait until Mart takes a look at it.
The front door does have a real nice curved glass door.
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Are there numbers on the back by any chance ?? Have to go by what I can see !! Looks to be late 30`s 1940`s or could even be early 50`s just going by the style !! I call these transition pieces !! Does the lock work,, some are just for looks ?? The scroll feet are similar to the Empire Revival period but not nearly as pronounced !! You find many details from earlier furniture during the transition of styles !!
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Are there numbers on the back by any chance ?? Have to go by what I can see !! Looks to be late 30`s 1940`s or could even be early 50`s just going by the style !! I call these transition pieces !! Does the lock work,, some are just for looks ?? The scroll feet are similar to the Empire Revival period but not nearly as pronounced !! You find many details from earlier furniture during the transition of styles !!
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Is on the back in yellow hand paint. The lock does work. My key from another cabinet ALMOST throws the lock but its not quite the right tooth on the key I have for the other one.
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Thats what I thought !! They started numbering furniture in the mid 30`s so could be any time after that date !! They had about stopped putting locks on most things by then and you saw fewer and fewer as time went on !! Early furniture had locks on every drawer in a bedroom set and others that are a bit beyond my comprehension !! But the theory is that household help could not steal items !! Seems that money was an issue here even though I have never heard of ones bloomers getting swiped !! At least not back then,, have heard of a few instances more recently however !!
The reason the locks continued for a while on items like this is because on the breakable nature of the items kept for show !! Even now they are still used on some china/curio cabinets !!
The numbers are really only helpful to the company that made the cabinet but it does give you a timeline !!
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So what your saying is, you have no clue when it was made =)
Thats ok. Between 30 and 50 seems about right.
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My feeling is that it was made mid 40`s or after but as I said,, can only go by the one pic !! Usually antique shops will have a bunch of these keys or look on ebay !! Shouldn`t be too hard to find one that will work !!
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I use to have a big collection/assortment of those "furniture" keys ….. so that after refinishing a piece for "resale" I had a key for it. It will sell "quicker" with a key …… than without a key.
When the new owner shows it off to his family or friends, …… having the "key" for the door/drawer locks is "important" …. whenever he/she is asked if they have one. ;)
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I use to have a big collection/assortment of those "furniture" keys ….. so that after refinishing a piece for "resale" I had a key for it. It will sell "quicker" with a key …… than without a key.
When the new owner shows it off to his family or friends, …… having the "key" for the door/drawer locks is "important" …. whenever he/she is asked if they have one. ;)
I can post another pic of something that you may need to help determine.
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I use to have a big collection/assortment of those "furniture" keys ….. so that after refinishing a piece for "resale" I had a key for it. It will sell "quicker" with a key …… than without a key.
When the new owner shows it off to his family or friends, …… having the "key" for the door/drawer locks is "important" …. whenever he/she is asked if they have one. ;)
I can post another pic of something that you may need to help determine.
The key that I ahve for another cabinet with the same style lock will LOCK it, but wont unlock it. Which is odd to me, so its not far off........
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Can`t get much closer on something of that vintage !! There can be as much as a ten year production period between the time they started making it and when it ended,, if it ended at all !! Styles were not made year to year but followed the trends and the designers of the day !!
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Can`t get much closer on something of that vintage !! There can be as much as a ten year production period between the time they started making it and when it ended,, if it ended at all !! Styles were not made year to year but followed the trends and the designers of the day !!
Makes sense. But theres no real way to know who made it or where it came from?
This is in the USA.
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I think by the mid 20th century it could have been any one of dozens of manufacturers. Not sure if Grand Rapids was still a big furniture manufacturing center at that point, but that's where I'd start.
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I think by the mid 20th century it could have been any one of dozens of manufacturers. Not sure if Grand Rapids was still a big furniture manufacturing center at that point, but that's where I'd start.
Ok. Well, when I " search " for something, what should I be using as a keyword with this particular cabinet ?
If I search for " old cabinet " I get millions of pictures :D
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Its just a china cabinet but chances of finding the maker are slim to none !! For items like this it is not important and does not add to the value !! Its condition does !! Good thing is its straight lines and very little ornamentation make it blend easily with many of todays styles and homes !! Consider yourself lucky that you have a very salable item !! If it had all the frou frou from earlier styles you might have to pay someone to take it !!
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Its just a china cabinet but chances of finding the maker are slim to none !! For items like this it is not important and does not add to the value !! Its condition does !! Good thing is its straight lines and very little ornamentation make it blend easily with many of todays styles and homes !! Consider yourself lucky that you have a very salable item !! If it had all the frou frou from earlier styles you might have to pay someone to take it !!
Gotcha. Its in good shape. It needs a little touchup here and there, but nothing major. On the right side, the glass has a crack. But not bad. I got it from a relative, and I'm not selling it, I'm gonna use it for the house.
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Use a little Old English dark oil on it !! Will blend all the scratches and make it look like new !! Use sparingly and work into the scratches and buff lightly afterwards !!
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Use a little Old English dark oil on it !! Will blend all the scratches and make it look like new !! Use sparingly and work into the scratches and buff lightly afterwards !!
Sounds like a good plan. It wont take much to clean up a couple spots.
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Hi All!
Sorry...have been out of sorts with all the storms and loss of electricity for days!
This is a beautiful library/display cabinet. I would say it was from the late 40's to early 50's in style and appears to be American made. These are still very desirable.
Can you please post a picture of the back side? Any joinery items that can be seen?
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Here is the back.
What do you mean joinery ? Nail?
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Thats right KC !! Told them the same thing !! Joinery means how the boards attach to each other but there is little that can be seen on this cabinet !!
KC You lost power in the last storm ?? Didn`t hear that !! We did for about an hour but our Co-op is fast on repair !! Swepco outage lasted a couple of days here !!
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Mart, we have lost power 5 times! The last one was the longest! All people around us had power - but not not 3 of us. So, a close friend who is a big whig with the electric company gave us the number of the head of outages who had it back on fast!!!!
The back of this piece looks more like 30's to 40's - so I will stick with 40's without seeing it and getting a hands on! Newer pieces use a solid board and not pieced like this.
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Very interesting about the back being one piece in newer ones.
Is there something you want to see that would help you determine more accurately?
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Thats about as accurate as anyone can get !! When made is not important unless it is period furniture ! This is getting into mass produced !! Is there a reason you need to know a closer date if you are keeping it ??
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Thats about as accurate as anyone can get !! When made is not important unless it is period furniture ! This is getting into mass produced !! Is there a reason you need to know a closer date if you are keeping it ??
No reason, other than to know what Im talking about when someone asks.
Furniture like this is not terribly common in Texas.
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Ha !! KC and I are both in Texas,, !! You are doing what most people do and looking at a single piece of furniture rather than an entire block of furniture from that time period !! How an individual piece is made just depends on the company that made it !! Other mfrs used different decorative accents from earlier furniture but they are all still from the same time period !! can`t date those pieces either other than to say mid century as most do,, 1940`s or early 50`s !!
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Ha !! KC and I are both in Texas,, !! You are doing what most people do and looking at a single piece of furniture rather than an entire block of furniture from that time period !! How an individual piece is made just depends on the company that made it !! Other mfrs used different decorative accents from earlier furniture but they are all still from the same time period !! can`t date those pieces either other than to say mid century as most do,, 1940`s or early 50`s !!
So you know what I Mean. Furniture here sucks unless it was imported . :)
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"HA", ….. most of the antique/collectible furniture in Texas is imported. Always has been. They neither had the craftsmen, the "furniture" wood or the manufacturers to build it there.
Spanish themed furniture was the norm.
At least that is what a "dealer" from Texas told me, who was driving a big box tractor n' trailer and was up thisaway looking to fill it up with mostly oak furniture and take it back to Texas. ;D
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"HA", ….. most of the antique/collectible furniture in Texas is imported. Always has been. They neither had the craftsmen, the "furniture" wood or the manufacturers to build it there.
Spanish themed furniture was the norm.
At least that is what a "dealer" from Texas told me, who was driving a big box tractor n' trailer and was up thisaway looking to fill it up with mostly oak furniture and take it back to Texas. ;D
Oh no doubt. I've never seen any good cabients or china cabinets in TX. I've had to buy them in NY and bring them here :)
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Its easy to find them here but they were not made here !! Most of our surrounding states and Texas were not blessed with the manufacturers !! Most all the larger mfrs were in the NE !! Has not changed much either !!
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They may not have been made here...but they finally got here! 😜😂
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They may not have been made here...but they finally got here! 😜😂
Yeah modern cabinets are terrible these days.
http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=19026.msg132054#msg132054
This is my other one that I got a couple years ago.
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Yeah !! Kinda remember that one !! Seems like there were some runs in the varnish that made me thing it had been refinished !! You do not find runs in furniture otherwise !!