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Title: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on December 15, 2008, 02:59:06 PM
I thought I knew quite a bit about older silver and silverplate pieces....but I am not quite sure about this fork.  Can anyone give some insight?  It has been identified as EPNS Made in England and Kingsway. Is 4 3/4" long.  No other information.
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Post by: D&b antiques on December 15, 2008, 04:45:29 PM
we can be sure it was made in the 18 century or later because it has four tines. kingsway mfg company ltd. newton works london england  designed it. and they were working until at least 1927
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on February 07, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
Bump!!!!  Anyone have new ideas on this one I posted back in 2008?
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Post by: greenacres on February 07, 2013, 02:10:47 PM
They are dessert forks from what I'm reading. There are some for sale on ebay.
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on February 07, 2013, 03:07:37 PM
I have collected dessert/pie forks for over 25 years and haven't ever seen one like this before.  (I have a huge collection!)  Can you post a link where another like this is found please?!
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Post by: mart on February 07, 2013, 03:34:00 PM
Can you take a couple of larger pics ??  These don`t enlarge !!
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Post by: Ipcress on February 07, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
It's a baby's fork
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Post by: mart on February 07, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
Tines look too wide for a baby !!  I think its a pickle fork !!
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Post by: Ipcress on February 07, 2013, 05:33:24 PM
(http://www.antiquesnavigator.com/ebay/images/2012/370678002862.jpg)
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on February 07, 2013, 07:09:08 PM
So this is an odd kind of "pusher" for kids!!!!  Now that makes more sense!

Sorry, don't have it with me to post another pic.  That was from 2008...but still wanted to know!
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: mart on February 07, 2013, 08:59:31 PM
Oh !!  I thought that part at the tip of the tines was something you had it resting on !!   Couldn`t tell it was all made together !!  Thats the first one I have seen made like that !!
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Post by: JamesAL 25 on February 08, 2013, 04:39:58 AM
That's an interesting fork, where did you get it from??
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on February 08, 2013, 11:21:08 AM
Had one in with a some silver I was evaluating.  If I hadn't known better I would have bet that someone had "rigged" a fork.  But, it was made that way!

Ipcress, the set you are displaying appears to be a salad set...

The one I had shown was closer in size to a salad fork size!
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Post by: frogpatch on February 08, 2013, 11:33:38 AM
he one Ipcress is showing is only 4 inches long. It is a spork and a one of those things your trying to ID
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on February 08, 2013, 03:00:24 PM
Yeah Frogpatch.  Just from the pic, the "mouth part" looks wider than the one I had.  But just may be the pic.

I agree the other is a spork!

Thanks always for observations/help!
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Post by: greenacres on February 08, 2013, 03:38:57 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vinatge-Baby-Food-Pusher-Silver-Plate-Angora-Silver-Plate-Co-Sheffield-/310581503317?pt=Antiques_Silver&hash=item485019a555

 This is a child's food pusher. KC's is not that.
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Post by: greenacres on February 08, 2013, 03:51:23 PM
http://www.antiquesnavigator.com/d-444666/pair-of-silver-plate-cake-slice-splayds-epns-england.html

All I can think is it's some kind of condiment server or mini torte server.
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: Ipcress on February 08, 2013, 06:23:43 PM
I thought it was simply a childs fork. The flat end meaning basic chopping or cutting can be done, the tines mean you can mash without the need for a knife.

It's not very functionable / practical so didn't sell well and that's why there aren't many of them.
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Post by: greenacres on February 08, 2013, 06:47:30 PM
Oh, I couldn't find anything close. I'm stubborn, lol :)
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on February 08, 2013, 07:06:16 PM
Greenacres, I thought it might be something used for tea time to serve petite bites.  But will look into the cake idea further...because it would have to be a cake ball to fit on it!  :)

By-the-way, I have seen a straight up pusher other than the typical bent one like you have shown.  (Still have mine and my brothers!)  But they do make them as a straight piece...but it has more solidity to it than the thingy I have been showing!

Thanks for helping to figure this out everyone...the hunt is on to confirm.......
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Post by: greenacres on February 08, 2013, 08:47:39 PM
 ;D ;D let us know what you find. I wonder if replacements.com could help you.
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Post by: mart on February 09, 2013, 03:32:14 PM
For petit fours at tea time ??
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Post by: KC on February 09, 2013, 06:43:54 PM
That is what I was thinking originally Mart...but haven't found anything to support it.
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Post by: mart on February 09, 2013, 06:47:51 PM
Found another possibility,, fruit salad fork !! To pick up small bites and it would allow juice to drain off !!  Still looking though !!
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Post by: gg27 on February 09, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
Usually tomato servers are round, but possibly they made some squarish ones??  :-\  I have looked at this post for days now & that's all I can come up with. GG
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Post by: mart on February 09, 2013, 07:45:03 PM
Found something similar with the banded tines called a cake slice splayd !!  Although when you look for them you get a different variation and the ones on antiquesnavigator are all I found like that !! And couldn`t get it to open so I could check the size !! KC`s and the one that Ipcress posted are all I have found like this,, no matter what I put in the search !!
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on February 10, 2013, 12:09:13 AM
Me too...still looking after all these years.  Thanks for joining the hunt with me.  Confounds me...and ya'll too!  :)
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: cogar on February 10, 2013, 06:24:38 AM
KC, my first thoughts were when I seen the picture of your fork was, “HA, one that slipped by an inspector”.

I say that because when they are “stamping” the fork blanks out they leave that “cross-bridge” between the ends of the tines until later on in the production cycle. 

And plus the fact that those little “dimples” in said “cross-bridge” would pose a big problem when trying to wash that fork   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on February 13, 2013, 05:21:03 AM
Cogar, the first time I saw it that is what I thought!  But upon inspection saw it was definitely made like that!

Just found another one...Russian no less!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-Silver-916-Vintage-Cake-Fork-Spoon-USSR-1970th-Gold-plated-/150674813546?pt=Antiques_Silver&hash=item2314eb326a# (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Russian-Silver-916-Vintage-Cake-Fork-Spoon-USSR-1970th-Gold-plated-/150674813546?pt=Antiques_Silver&hash=item2314eb326a#)
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: KC on March 10, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
UPDATE!!!  For those that like to figure out the "what is it" items....

My old pics aren't showing up, but the the pic that Ipcress posted is like it.  Found out that it is referred to as a "sardine fork/server" in Europe.  If the tines are long then it is also referred to as a "cake fork".
Title: Re: Can anyone tell me about this fork?
Post by: mart on March 10, 2015, 01:10:21 PM
LOL !!  Well, we guessed everything but sardines !!  ;D