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Title: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: ironlord1963 on June 15, 2009, 10:04:22 PM
I have acquired a plate, maybe considered a Bon Bon Tray.  But the question is the age.  I was looking into the hallmark and the only reference I could find on O.C.Co (Ohio China Company) seems to say that this hallmark was from 1886-1912.  Looking at the item I was thinking 40's if I was lucky, but now in disbelief I turn to the experts  ;D.
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: regularjoe2 on June 15, 2009, 10:39:53 PM
I think you're right about the American Limoges ( Ohio China Co. , Palestine , Ohio )
age .
You can find the mark on page 18 on Kovels .

Yay for you !
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: ironlord1963 on June 16, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
Thanks joe, for the boost in esteem  ;D.   Another question if I may, It has a opalence glaze but the color is kinda splochy, would one consider this a kinda of splatterware?  I find this item a bit unique in many ways but still have a slight problem thinking it as a Antique and not vintage, for I usually only find vintage and rarely acquire something Antique.
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: D&b antiques on June 16, 2009, 03:02:52 PM
It's not spatter. I think it could be due to uneven wear. or a factory defect.
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: ironlord1963 on June 16, 2009, 03:15:36 PM
Cool I didn't really think so, but it would have to be factory, it is under the glaze, maybe intentional not sure, kinda cool but gives it a kinda flaw appearance.
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: KC on June 16, 2009, 06:33:01 PM
Once again, agree with D&B about the appearance of the piece.

Do believe it is a bon bon dish.

Still very nice!
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: ironlord1963 on June 16, 2009, 06:51:23 PM
Bon Bon was the best I could come up with.  Something I just picked up and maybe need some clarification.  This item is not a plate and not quite a bowl,  I have got a small plate that is a bon Bon dish so the box said.  Kinda was the same shape but much smaller.   What would one call a item such as this? and what would a Bon Bon plate be?  Beside something to serve bon bons on.  :P.  Sorry not of the pic has a good side view, but it stands just under 2" Tall around the rim and is 10 1/2" Round.  Would be nice to impress the lady with a bit more culture you know  ;D.
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: regularjoe2 on June 16, 2009, 10:18:28 PM
Ironlord , I'd suggest you serve the lady some grapes in that dish ( per it's decoration ) & some bon-bons too .... then ask HER what kind of a dish it is .

Once she tells you her opinion , ALWAYS refer to the dish by that name ....

in this way , she'll be impressed that you've got more than culture going for you !

 ;D ;D ;D

I wanted to comment that although I can't really tell by the images , maybe the piece may have been salt or soda glazed .
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: KC on June 17, 2009, 02:13:55 PM
Candy dish is the proper name instead of bon bon....but bon bon sounds fancier!
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: ironlord1963 on June 17, 2009, 02:45:24 PM
It will be easier to serve me lady candy instead of Bon Bons any way, still not exactly sure what  bon bon is anyway  ;D, beside the ones in the movie house.  :P.
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: D&b antiques on June 17, 2009, 02:53:37 PM
Bon Bon is french for choclate covered Candy. now it would appear to have two Handles ? we have a Bon Bon Dish.
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: KC on June 17, 2009, 09:24:39 PM
A bonbon is a sweet.  In the early days it generally had almonds/nut centers - but these days it can be any confection with a cream filled center, fruit or nuts, covered in fondant, chocolate, or a sugar or flavored coating.  These days can also mean a hard-boiled sweet with a soft fruit center.

The difference between a truffle and a bonbon is a truffle is made with heavy cream and the bonbon doesn't have to be made of chocolate.

Still called bonbons in Europe!
Title: Re: Bit stumped and in disbelief
Post by: ironlord1963 on June 17, 2009, 10:57:01 PM
So a bon bon is basically candy  ::), early form of candy before the resealable plastic container.  ;D.  Guess I'm feeding her candy in the Bon Bon dish,  I truely am starting to feel cultured  ::)