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Title: Very Rare Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis (mystery)
Post by: Blessing on July 12, 2009, 04:34:18 PM
I have some antique china pieces with a picture of a lady of royalty with swastikas and flowers on both sides of her. Any information of the history and worth would be appreciated.  I have learned that the pattern discription is "Women in Horsehoe Floral" by Edward J Owen China.  (Pattern #OWE14) Thanks for all of your help.
Title: Re: Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis
Post by: regularjoe2 on July 12, 2009, 08:23:56 PM
I think this may be "Queen Anne Lady Luck" pottery .

Could you post an image of the hallmark on the bottom of your item(s) ?
Title: Re: Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis
Post by: Blessing on July 12, 2009, 10:35:25 PM
Here is the stamp of authenticity located on the back of each piece.
Title: Re: Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis
Post by: KC on July 13, 2009, 10:59:50 AM
Definitely Edward J Owens china mark of Minerva, Ohio  (1902 - 1932)!

In 1906 they did have a line called the Swastika Keramos line that was made until 1908 (but it was floral work that resembles Roseville pottery) - the company was forced to close due to the depression in 1932.

The interesting tidbit was that in Edward J Owen managed several pottery producers in Minerva:  organized 1894 East End Pottery, 1902 founded Owen China Company, Paden City Pottery, 1910 managed Clinchfield Pottery (which was under reorganization by Southern Potteries Inc.).

Very interesting pieces.....


Title: Re: Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis
Post by: luxetveritas on July 13, 2009, 05:07:42 PM
These are really interesting! Kind of curious about the Swastika motif myself!
Title: Re: Very Rare Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis (mystery)
Post by: Blessing on July 13, 2009, 05:27:55 PM
I have looked out on a china replacement website.  I found a picture of one of the plates, but no pieces were available.  Is there anyone out there that can give me an idea of the value or where I can possibly find information.  Help!!!
Title: Re: Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis
Post by: cogar on July 14, 2009, 07:32:21 AM
In 1906 they did have a line called the Swastika Keramos line that was made until 1908 ........

Many people associate the origin of the Swastika motif with Nazi Germany ..... but all the Nazis done was to render it non-PC.

Now I knew it had been in use for a long time because it has been found on Native American pottery, etc.

But I didn't know it had been in use this long until I just Googled it, to wit:

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The earliest archaeological evidence of a swastika-motif dates from the Upper Paleolithic period (ca. 10,000 BC).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika_origin_theories


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Title: Re: Very Rare Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis (mystery)
Post by: luxetveritas on July 14, 2009, 09:11:06 AM
It is also a sacred Buddhist symbol meaning life or something similar I believe. In India it is not uncommon to see it on the hands, feet, heads, etc of statues. However, it is a reversed Swastika, Hitler flipped the symbol of life to one world-renown now for death.
Title: Re: Very Rare Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis (mystery)
Post by: Blessing on July 16, 2009, 04:35:03 PM
Does anyone know how much each piece would sale for?
Title: Re: Very Rare Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis (mystery)
Post by: D&b antiques on July 16, 2009, 04:44:27 PM
all the pieces have condition problem's. the casserole dish would likely sell at $ 35.00 Dollars.
Title: Re: Very Rare Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis (mystery)
Post by: ROJ1111 on December 02, 2010, 09:23:59 PM
My mother found a pc exactly the same as posted here, interesting.  Hers however has CLINCHFIELD SPI CHINA 4-26 on it, I'll post some pics...  Oddly enough, we too are in St. Lou!
Title: Re: Very Rare Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis (mystery)
Post by: Blessing on December 07, 2010, 09:48:56 AM
Does anyone know how much each piece would sale for?
Title: Re: Very Rare Minerva Owen Swastika China Gold Medal St Louis (mystery)
Post by: KC on December 08, 2010, 09:10:08 PM
Blessing, what are the specific pieces?