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Title: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: dhoppy on November 09, 2009, 02:46:14 PM
I have this old picture it's on a canvas type material but don't know if its a photo or some kind of artwork? Any ideas would be appreciated on age also.
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: D&b antiques on November 09, 2009, 05:25:53 PM
It look's to be Charcoal on Canvas.
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: dhoppy on November 09, 2009, 06:00:29 PM
thats what i thought but being not antique smart yet lol can you guess the era or age ? I thought maybe civil war era? This is why I ask the experts who have know how on this stuff. Thanks again D&B
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: fancypants on November 09, 2009, 11:46:49 PM
Am curious to know what the writing on the back says , dhoppy ... I could only make out a word or two from your posted image (too dark to see it well) .

Thanks .
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: dhoppy on November 10, 2009, 06:08:53 AM
80 Bridge tues c,o,d, _ _ J Demet _ _ cliff_ _ _ lt Shop thats all I could make out. It looks like someone wrote the order on it . I wish I could find out the age thank you for looking
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: sapphire on November 10, 2009, 07:07:06 AM
dhoppy, could you post another pic or two....of the piece full on and another of just the lower half ?
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL? ADDED PHOTOS
Post by: dhoppy on November 10, 2009, 08:42:13 AM
here are two more
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: dhoppy on November 10, 2009, 08:46:20 AM
dhoppy, could you post another pic or two....of the piece full on and another of just the lower half ?
here they are hope it helps
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: cogar on November 10, 2009, 09:01:18 AM
dhoppy, the only way to make a reasonable guess as to the age of your picture is if you know the approximate age the person was when the photograph of the person was taken that the drawing was made from, that’s assuming that is how it was made.

I say that because the wife has similar sized pictures of her relatives, one of which she also has a copy of the photograph it was made from. She was told that another relative had sent the photographs to an artist somewhere who “drew/painted” the pictures from the photos. She also has a photo of another picture of an Aunt that was made using pastels (colored). See the following 3 photos.

The 1st one is a photo of an actual photograph of her Aunt (1881-1917) and the 2nd one is the charcoal drawing of her. The 3rd one is a photo of the pastel drawing of another Aunt (1875-1904) .

Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: sapphire on November 10, 2009, 09:05:47 AM
dhoppy, could you post another pic or two....of the piece full on and another of just the lower half ?
here they are hope it helps

Now how about one of the lower left hand corner of the front?   ;)
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: dhoppy on November 10, 2009, 09:19:09 AM
here we are
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on November 10, 2009, 12:29:53 PM
Dhoppy, if this is a relative of yours and you know a little information about her such as where she lived, I may be able to look her up on Ancestry.com. That way we could figure out an approximate date for your drawing. I have a few days left on my subscription. However, if she is unidentified, the next best way to date the drawing I think would be to start researching the style of her clothing. That's usually a good way to determine the date. Hairstyle could also help. I agree though, my first reaction was that her dress style looks to be Civil War era, especially the conservative little white collar. I'd start researching Civil War fashions and go from there.

The Costumer's Manifesto is a great resource:
http://www.costumes.org/HISTORY/100pages/victlinks.htm#1860%27s (http://www.costumes.org/HISTORY/100pages/victlinks.htm#1860%27s)
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: dhoppy on November 10, 2009, 02:33:11 PM
unfortuately it's not a relative but someone else's who dumped her in the trash(how sad) I just found her interesting and will reframe her. Thanks for the advice I'll start following your guidelines and again thanks everyone foe all your input
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on November 10, 2009, 02:42:30 PM
You're kidding?!! Kudos to you for rescuing her! Well done!
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: sapphire on November 10, 2009, 04:00:14 PM
dhoppy, is there a signature in the corner? Possibly starting with a Y, M or H ?  Having trouble here getting it clear and don't know if it's just a color blip on my part.  :-\
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: sapphire on November 10, 2009, 06:54:31 PM
This is what I am seeing, but it could be just an glitch in the pic.

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/geeziesmom/oldlady003.jpg)
Title: Re: OLD PHOTO OR CHARCOAL?
Post by: KC on November 14, 2009, 04:29:09 PM
I thought it was some type of signature as well sapphire!