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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: ra1294 on April 01, 2010, 05:06:00 PM
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I have been trying to identify these items but I am having some trouble. The two hooks I think are hooks that attach to a wooden pole to pull an antique mower or plow with a horse. The other item I have no clue. Any help would be great
Thanks,
Richard
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Cool old iron , ra1294 .
Welcome to the forum .
Pretty darn sure the two items you mention are harness items , as you say .
I'm a bit curious to know the length of the item in question , in the center of your image .
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Could the center item have been used to hang a butchered animal carcass on it? Looks like it would work well for that.
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talesof, the thing that is bothering me is most meat hooks are not self closing but are an open hook design....and not a 2 sided closing hook.
It looks familiar but I can't put my finger on it........
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I though calfing tool , at first glance .
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fancy, as soon as you mentioned that I had flashbacks to watching the old "All Creatures Great and Small" shows............co untry vet in
Northern England, pre/post war. Pulling a stubborn calf out.
Darn, now I'll have to dig out my old VHS tapes ::)
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Not 100% sure, it's more of a guess than anything else, but since the two hooks do look like harness pieces, that last item might be for hauling items by horse or such. It looks a bit like a logging tool I've seen in the past, but the memory is a bit hazy. This piece might not be strong enough for that, and I'm not sure if the size is right, but that's what it reminded me of.
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The 2 little ones are "singletree" hooks, the larger one might be a double "log grag".
(http://www.balsters.net/singletrees_28in_center_loop.jpg)
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Hello everybody,
I really appreciate the reply's. The length of the center item is 17 1/2 inches. The two side arms open up to a lenght of about 13 inches.
Thanks,
Richard
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With some research I did, I found out some parts I have are part of a Adriance mower (Pictured below). And with the identification of the single tree hooks, could that hook like device be part of the mower?
Thanks,
Richard
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And with the identification of the single tree hooks, could that hook like device be part of the mower?
No, I do not think so.
In the above you have pictured what looks to me like an old "cast iron" tractor seat which is highly collectible and eagerly sought after by collectors. Just do a Google search on "antique cast iron tractor seats" and you will see what I mean. ;D ;D ;D ;D
The other 2 items pictured are mowing machine "cutter bar" knife guides and are of no value except to the curious. See below picture.
(http://www.fao.org/docrep/x5380e/x5380e0w.jpg)
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Hello,
That plate is from a Adriance mower No. 8. from around the 1880's. That is why I'm thinking maybe that hook like device could have been used to grab some hay, I don't know.
Thanks,
Richard
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Just doesn't make sense that the hooks would be facing opposite directions to catch the hay. My family in OK and FL who have and had farms with hay equipment had hay hooks....all the hooks face the same direction and are not self closing AND wouldn't be this small.
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THough it seems rather small what is the possibility that the one object is an ice puller?
They used both hand held and horse drawn ice pullers. And if it has a self closing mechanism it would make sense I have just never seen ones that would pull two small blocks as opposed to one large block.
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aj: I was going to suggest ice but you beat me to it, man.
Could possibly be for retail house delivery? I could imagine "One block or two, mam?"
Just a guess.
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I had also thought of it being a hay spear or harpoon but the short size does not lend itself to grabbing much hay. I also cannot tell from the pic how this would self-trip and grab loose hay. It appears to be a flat stock object and maybe blacksmith made so it could be a specialty use type item someone made up. I have not found it in any of my farm reference tool books. An ice grabber does not really make sense as all ice tongs I have ever seen have good handles to hang onto after grabbing the block of ice. This tool looks like it has a slot for hanging and not much else (maybe a slot to put a chain in?). Another conundrum.
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aj and ChineseAF, I thought the same thing originally and then quickly dismissed it because it is too small.
I can remember going to the ice houses to get ice for the ice cream makers and various occasions....never saw anything like this at the ones I went to with my folks!
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Take away that double prong center and it is a large calipers. Maybe this is a double calipers of some type used for logging, pattern work, duplicating, or ? I will be looking at tool books again.
BINGO! That did not take long...http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/2-pair-antique-double-calipers-early-iron-trip and at
http://www.folkartisans.com/pages/p-list10.html#twrt "This is a decorative double caliper, hand made from iron. It has a great look and wonderful rich dark surface. Both sides of the calipers swivel, so they can be shown in the way that displays best. This piece is in very good condition. It is almost 17 1/4" long. At the joint it is about 1" thick. The thickness of the pieces vary; they were likely hand forged and beaten to get the desired depth. It was probably made in the 1800's. The price is $145.00."
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Way to go Wayward!
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Great brainstorming wayward !! ;)
Another shot from an auction ....hand forged double calipers
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Good find Wayward. ;)
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Whoo Hoo! Way to go!!!!!
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Cool one wayward !
I'd much rather see these used for measuring , versus cows !
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Wow!
I am so glad to finally find out what it is. I want to thank everyone for replying to my post, also thanks wayward
Thanks,
Richard
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Had to read a little further.....
http://books.google.com/books?id=BHf51cGMbbMC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=hand+forged+double+calipers+were+used+for&source=bl&ots=PlVT_T_MO_&sig=lOQXAqF-iot-nQ4so5gs6pM3CGk&hl=en&ei=NWi5S5XeBIzQ8wSK2NHqAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CBYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=BHf51cGMbbMC&pg=PA21&lpg=PA21&dq=hand+forged+double+calipers+were+used+for&source=bl&ots=PlVT_T_MO_&sig=lOQXAqF-iot-nQ4so5gs6pM3CGk&hl=en&ei=NWi5S5XeBIzQ8wSK2NHqAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CBYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=&f=false)
Page 21 has the double calipers...but look at page 20 Never heard of the Dancing Master Calipers! What a hoot!
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KC, regarding the dancing calipers, I have seen pics of many of these but one I saw on a tool auction site in the last year was REALLY risque. I can't really describe them without getting into trouble but they were engraved so the female private parts were around the pivot point and the legs were the caliper legs. There was nothing left to the imagination. Evidently there are/were some dirty old tool users (not that I know any).
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I believe it Wayward. I searched further on them and found some pretty risque ones. Guess they give an all new meaning to "dirty" tools!