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Title: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: sapphire on April 21, 2010, 07:06:36 AM
While I'm waiting for the weather to warm up so I can haul my on-hold projects outside to work I figured I should
start digging through what my kids used to call Mommy's Tickle Trunk.  It's my aunt's cedar chest where nearly
everything I have left of hers and my mother's things are stored.  I know there's other odds and ends all through
the house and hiding in boxes.......to be found when I'm in the mood for a treasure hunt.  :)

Be prepared for an onslaught of pics and questions as I wade my way through.  :D


(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/geeziesmom/Aunt%20E%20cedar%20chest/IMG_2257.jpg)
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: sapphire on April 21, 2010, 07:28:10 AM
First up  ;)

Are these who I think they are??

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/geeziesmom/Aunt%20E%20cedar%20chest/IMG_2261.jpg)


http://www.kovels.com/priceguide/kovels_salt_pepper/1999/gingham_dog_calico_cat/837506.html (Not that they'd ever realize that price)

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20041112/ai_n11486167/
 

http://www.grovenet.net/~cirplex/gallery4.htm

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/geeziesmom/mav512.jpg)

Brayton Laguna "Calico Cat" 8" Tall - ca:1940
SOLD
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: ironlord1963 on April 21, 2010, 08:07:52 AM
Wow are you going to have fun  ;D.   Sure looks like a really close match to me on the dogs,  I do notice the eyes are much different.
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: sapphire on April 21, 2010, 08:31:39 AM
That's one thing I noticed as I searched ironlord.  There seem to be a lot of variations on them. Here's a 'selection'
on Worthpoint.
 
http://www.worthpoint.com/inventory/search?query=brayton+gingham+dog

Interesting tidbit from one of the links I posted previously (not that I'd go that route)

"For insurance replacement purposed, the cookie jar should be valued in the $500 to $575 range, and the shakers in the neighborhood of $100 to $125."  

Wonder if I should tell my old girl she now has competition in the $$ department :D


Be forewarned Lord of the Silver........I've already started digging.  The tea service that belonged to my grandmother and was used for my Aunt's and mother's weddings (1939/1940) came to light. Also came across a vase of my mom's, it's been around for as long as
I can remember, clear/burgundy (sitting in left corner of the chest). Think it's pressed and painted, but we'll see.
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: wendy177 on April 21, 2010, 08:39:22 AM
Really cute Sapphire and they are who you think they are!!!  If you find a purple bull let me know!!!! check for faint marks in pencil on the bottom  artists first letter of first & last name only. small differences account for many artists doing the same type pieces for the studio, no 2 are the same as with any art studio pottery, Funny I just bought a salt & pepper shaker Price guide this past weekend!!!  ;)
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on April 21, 2010, 10:22:44 AM
Oooh! Looks like MORE silver pieces in there to research!!

Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: KC on April 21, 2010, 10:02:29 PM
NICE!!!!  Like your trunk of tickles!!!!!
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: Dean Perdue on April 22, 2010, 12:44:34 AM
Nice stuff.I'm liking the cedar chest a lot.
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: sapphire on April 22, 2010, 05:37:52 AM
Thanks Dean.  I've always loved this chest. Mom had one too, wish I had pictures of hers.  After her death I passed
it along to my oldest niece. This one will go to my oldest daughter as I've already bought the younger one hers.

It's an Eatonia (made for Eaton's), by the Honderich Furniture Co.  No idea on it's exact age, but likely from 1940's.
Before coming to this forum I would never have thought to look under it to find the other label.   ;)
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: sapphire on April 22, 2010, 08:54:06 AM
After a quick run through the items in the chest I've pulled this one hoping for some input. As all seem to have either a
Sterling (very few) or plated mark, this one is the exception.  As it's not marked sterling and has some scratches to the
surface (likely a carving knife) I'm going with plate.  After scouring the entire piece, top, bottom and even all along the
braided edge, the only mark is an impressed 21 (underlined). It's quite heavy in the hands and compared to two larger
platters appears to weigh more.

I did find a reference to 'coin silver' bearing marks of '12' or '18' making them European. Not really sure exactly what
coin silver would be classed as or even if the '21' would fall in that category.

Hoping for a little enlightenment here  ;)


Platter

11 3/4" x 16 1/2"

(Edited to change 'spoon' to 'coin' )


Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: ironlord1963 on April 22, 2010, 09:07:29 AM
    With out the mark of Sterling, I would have to say it was plate at least I would assume that.  They are pretty good about having it marked.  I have seen many plate items mark with simple numbers or nothing at all.  Since it is heavy, I would say it was thick Nickle Silver base, something that heavy would be worth mega in Sterling.   As for Spoon or Coin Silver I would have to refresh My memory be making any commits, I do know that some flatware that is marked Coin is actually Coin Silverplate.
    I did cringe a bit at the commit of "After Scouring" .  Silverplate items you don't want to use any abrasive surface to clean it.  Alway use mild soap, hand wash, Dry it right away, let it cool down before storing.  Polish only when necessary.  Silverplate is easily rub and scratched away.  Sterling not so much of a issue at least with Abrasive washing and polishing, This will add to the patina over the years.
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: sapphire on April 22, 2010, 09:22:44 AM
Excuse my terminology ironlord. By scouring I meant looking over ever square inch of this thing several times.  ;)
I did use a silver cream to clean the back as it was so black it looked as though it came off the bbq. It's likely not
seen the light of day in more than thirty years. It takes forever, but seems to be fairly kind to the surfaces. It's the
same kind my mother used (or rather made me use) every time we dragged out the 'good silver' for special occasions.
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: ironlord1963 on April 22, 2010, 09:59:55 AM
Whew  :), sorry just had me all  :o for a moment  :D
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: KC on April 22, 2010, 10:12:50 AM
That was better than the humor that is purposely put on here....LOL.  I scour quite a bit Ironlord, without steel wool!  Ha!

I also believe that this is a silverplate.  Nice large tray!!!!
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: sapphire on April 22, 2010, 08:45:49 PM
Well I think I may have a clue as to the significance of the  '21' mark on my platter (I think  ::)).

I've come across several references to 'pennyweight' in relation to silverplating. An old term
that was used in England (and discontinued) and also in Europe.  It relates to the content of
silver in the plating.  In most cases, but not all, it is combined with a maker's mark.  Seems
to turn up, at least online, on items that were owned by the German Reich. Not necessarily
German made though.

Tried reading all the stuff explaining 'pennyweight' and got a headache.  :P

At least it gave me a possible answer to the mysterious number. 
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: KC on April 22, 2010, 09:23:38 PM
sapphire this was also used by the Dutch in the past.  It is befuddling when you try and take it all in!
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: sapphire on April 26, 2010, 06:01:48 AM
This is my next  ???

Made by Victor Silver Co., marked Quadruple Plate.......none of the marks for Victor Silver that I have found match this. I have
seen impressed marks and also several of a circle with a unicorn.

From what I have read Victor was another trademark (or division) of Derby Silver (originally Birmingham Derby).  Derby merged
with International Silver Co. in 1898.
 
Have also read (paraphrased):

- Quadruple plate not used after approx. 1912

- Rule of thumb, Derby Factory B most likely from 19th century

Some of the older pieces apparently have a date included in their mark. I've come across anywhere from 1900 - 1906 dated.

So I guess my questions on this piece would be... does anyone know of a similar mark to mine, any idea on a date and would
this style be considered Art Nouveau?





Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: KC on April 27, 2010, 08:54:02 AM
I haven't found any further information on this.  I did find reference that the company was used by S&B Green Stamps (not sure if you are old enough to remember these items) for gifts in the 1900's and were barely around in 1980.  (The Pres of the Co's son and i were good friends - he was deaf and I interpreted his architecture classes for him in college!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S&H_Green_Stamps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S&H_Green_Stamps)
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: waywardangler on April 27, 2010, 08:57:57 AM
I remember green stamps (S&H?) and I also remember gold bond stamps but those may have been more regional.  I am 58.
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on April 27, 2010, 12:32:28 PM
And Blue Chip Stamps with the little chipmunk on the cover of the stamp book!
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on April 27, 2010, 12:35:50 PM
Here's a few photographic memories, I can still remember the taste when you would lick the backside of a whole sheet of those things!!! I remember a kitchen drawer that was full of 'em!

(http://cdn2.ioffer.com/img/item/720/974/81/83675649_tp.jpg)

(http://www.foundelements.com/catalog/stampsblue.jpg)

(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/04/26/business/leonhardt_650.gif)
Title: Re: My kind of "Tickle Trunk"
Post by: wendy177 on April 27, 2010, 12:42:23 PM
Tales I have a few books of the green stamps like your photo around here, finding them is the trick ;)!!!!