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Title: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: up2no6ood on April 27, 2010, 06:00:50 PM

Looks to be gold applique the bird reminds me of a phoenix. I looked all over it and couldn't find a makers hallmark. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c226/jmg0529/Estate/P1010036.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c226/jmg0529/Estate/P1010037.jpg)
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c226/jmg0529/Estate/P1010038.jpg)

Title: Re: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: syl on April 27, 2010, 06:42:13 PM

It looks to be either Japanese or Chinese. Looks old too.

Title: Re: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: ironlord1963 on April 27, 2010, 08:35:37 PM

    Would be really hard to place a date and maker on this item.  Could be Asian but if it is, was made for export.  However based on the fact it is extra fancy, Unique looking that alone would get you maybe into the 50 dollar value, but would say about 30 Ebay dollars in value, and would guess at early 1900's in date, but for sure pre 1920's or most likely would have at least a county mark.   

Title: Re: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: fancypants on April 28, 2010, 11:49:01 AM

My guess goes like this :

The motif of your item is Japanese , with some typical Asian elements .

The combination of Crysanthemums , Paulownia tree , Hou-ou (phoenix) & possibly stylized Peonies all indicate post-Meiji period to me .

I'm also guessin' that it's from the Nagasaki Prefecture ; possibly depicting (in the central 'beige' area) the island of Iki (A.K.A. Ishu) .

Nice bowl (I think it's a rice 'serving' bowl), up2no6ood .

Title: Re: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: KC on April 28, 2010, 02:05:34 PM

Wow fancyp!  You never cease to amaze me!  Great info!

Title: Re: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: fancypants on April 28, 2010, 02:24:59 PM

It's still (kinda) guessin' from images , though .

Title: Re: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: Chinese Antique Furniture on April 29, 2010, 08:13:55 AM

I believe that the bowl is not Chinese.  Suspect KC is spot on attributing it to Japanese

Title: Re: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: Chinese Antique Furniture on April 29, 2010, 08:15:59 AM

Sorry KC.  Should have said Fancypants attributed the bowl to Japanese origin.  In any event, the bowl is not Chinese IMO.

Title: Re: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: KC on April 29, 2010, 11:04:40 AM

I actually sent the info to Fancy via ESP so that Fancy could voice the information! LOL  So you were right!     (Couldn't resist)

Title: Re: Info on antique "phoenix" bowl
Post by: fancypants on April 29, 2010, 11:20:44 AM

It's true .

KC & I are mind-melded .

Just part of the benefits of being a member here .

Stay here long enough , and it will happen to you too .

 ;)