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Antiques! => Antique Questions Forum => Topic started by: foxeygma on September 29, 2010, 02:25:02 PM
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This belonged to my Mother ..... I was not aware until I started searching just how many companies made these cabinets.I finally renebered after searchingsince 7 nthis morn ,theres isastickerunder the cabinet .i managed to get this H.J.Scheiriech may be misspelled .Did seea date 7/07/1952 t his information is from what looks like a shipping label???Wouklld like to restore it, maybe find the value and pictures .
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You'll find loads of Hoosier info on this earlier topic when the good folks here helped me restore my Hoosier. Although keep in mind that yours is about sixty years later and the paint and enamel would mean that if any restoration were to be done it would be considerably different.
http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=6351.0 (http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=6351.0)
I'd say that if the paint is original, you might consider NOT restoring and letting it keep it's "retro kitchen" look. However if it has been repainted once already you might as well go for it. Since it has an enamelled top, you might consider if finished wood would or would not look good with it.
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Foxeygma, Tales is correct, don't restore it, just give it a good cleaning, polishing, whatever. To restore it would be to strip it and re-paint it again and it would not look as good as it does now unless it was spray-painted with Gloss White enamel. Those are still a good seller, ...... no pun intended.
I got an e-mail a couple months ago from an acquaintence who wanted to know if I had one (a white kitchen cabinet w/flower bin) or knew where she could purchase one. There is a "generation" that is now looking for them because that is what their mothers had when they were growing up.
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Ironlord's chopper would look great with this Hoosier...
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And I'd bet Ironlord is eyeing those two pieces on top of the hoosier, trying to get a better look ;)
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Thanks Talesof & Sapphire.It does say on the back of the cabinet ..... cabinet no 509 white& redThere are some red handles and some silver .It has been re-painted white ,what I am curious about is on the flour bin there seems to be some sort of decoration that is peeping thru,and also about if there was a roll-down door .It appears my Dad did some of his repair work,there was at on time rollers on the bottom to move it and he built a wooden frame,. and nailed it to the bottom.That is where the covering up of the sticker began and after sveral people strainng their eyes we did decipher this information name H.J.Scherich, date 10/07/1952 ,Ozark,1923 So Jer ,St louis, MO This definitely is a shipping label.What I do want to do is give it a good cleaning maybe try and take off this newer coat of paint ,find all matching handles and drawer brackets need replaced .Mom and I baked a lot of goodies and this cabinet has many memories for us.On the shelf for Ironlord's curosity are a red and white porcelain pot,egg beater as we called them lo l red and white wooden handle and a sifter .These I found at a flea market.Any and All information on history,value and the Cleaning of this prized possesion would be greatly appreciated.
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By-all-means....restore it! Great piece of family history there! Document it, insert into a large manilla envelope and tape it back (where you can open the flap get out the contents while still adhered).....where others can reap the benefit of the research you are doing now!!!! Include any pics of you using it and stories of you and your mom! An added bonus would be to include a couple of recipes that were made using this!!!!!
What a treasure!!!!!!!
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I think the toughest part is going to be tracking down the red handles. Can you give us an up-close photo of one of the original red handles so that we can perhaps give you a hand in locating some replacements? We will need to know the measurement of the handle from hole to hole on center also.
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That will be my goal KC ...my girls open the cabinet and take deep breathes .Their first comment is," smells like Grandma" her spices she would put where the flour sifter is,the flour bin held goodies Grandpa and her ,both hid for the grandkids, when they came to visit.In talking my oldest daughter piped up "Moon Pies".....Grandma thought their favorite lol.Lots of recipebooks and loose ones from" the paper" and magazines were kept in the lard drawer?? So many memories and I so want to clean it up and make more memories .My Mother always wanted one of these and my Dad located it for her in Elvins Mo in the 70's.This I fear is going to take just as long as my Genealogy.Talesof Iam going to post pics and measurements of handles, hinges etc.What would anyone suggest to take off the newer paint???,under it the paint is yellowed with age and on the flour bin door is some sort of design I'm just itching to see.
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Talesof,There are nine handles 4original
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LOVED reading your story and memories associated with this Hoosier. That's just exactly the kind of thing that makes an antique a treasure. Looking forward to reading more and watching the cabinet being restored for the next generation!
That's great that you have four original handles. I bet we can find five more. The originals are red, right? Bakelite maybe?
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seem to be metal am a little familiar with Bakelite and this dosent appear to be to me .Five of the handles are red like the one posted one is green like the red ones and the other 3 shiny metal,3 ins exactly from screw to screw .
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flour sifter and where roll door went
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Had to post these items ,found the sifter,egg beater, and pot at a flea market. Took my breathe away I had to have them.The rolling pin was Mother,s she had it as far back as I could rembe,r baking with her ...and that started at age 7. Me,Mother and a can of Hereshey's Cocoa.
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3" is a good size, it's easy to find. You could certainly get metal ones and they would look great, that would be easy. But it would really look cool if red replacements are available...
A-hunting I will go! A-hunting I will go! Hi-ho-the-merry-o...
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These are very close, but not exact:
http://www.auroramills.com/cart/item.php?id=494 (http://www.auroramills.com/cart/item.php?id=494)
Here's what looks to be the exact right pull, but in white. Could this be painted with Krylon on the plastic? Could her original pulls be restored with plastic-adhering paint?
(http://retrorenovation.com/2007/11/28/68-vintage-40s-kitchen-cabinet-pulls-white-art-deco-todays-ebay-pick/)
Not period correct, but would look great, are readily available and are the right size:
http://www.eknobsandpulls.com/rio-3-cc-red-pull-p12819.html (http://www.eknobsandpulls.com/rio-3-cc-red-pull-p12819.html)
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So I have taken two of the handles off ,,,what a mess they are .And they are not metal .....some type of plastic as you can see from the pictures, the fine metal strip does come out. How to clean ,how to clean.
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Foxygma I have my antique rolling pin and other kitchen gadgets in an old bowl on my Hoosier too. Yours looks great!
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Wow that is Beautif talesof ...how much restoring did you do ??
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Every step is in the forum topic that I posted above, so you can get all the details there. Basically I did everything period authentic using antique parts and keeping the original finish. It got wavy antique glass cut to size from panes taken from an old Victorian era house, the wood was oiled but not altered on 90% of the cabinet, which still had its original oiled and not stained finish. The work surface had been sanded then left with paint cans sitting on it for 30 years, so I did have to resurface that, but we did as little as we could and then just oiled it so that it was treated the same as the rest of the Hoosier and it is gradually blending in and matching the rest of the cabinet. I replaced the drawer knobs with antique wooden drawer knobs and the bin pulls with 1878 patented antiques. The only modern parts are the cabinet interior catches which are hidden under the shelves inside. I used these because I found some very small ones that would blend in well and it appeared that originally the doors had never been equipped with latches, but now the doors wouldn't stay shut on their own.
Here's the before/after pics:
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Hoosier36.jpg)
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I know if talesof can get it done so can I ...making head way on cleaning the oiginal handlesTwo diffent types of paint green and white .
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Curiosity and endless hours of searching got the best of me ...so I decided to take the cabinet apart and have my Hubby cut out the piece of board covering the shipping label.The company that shipped it was... H.J Scheirich,Louisville 9, Kentucky.Sent to... Ozark Furniture Co. , 1623 Jefferson, St.Louis ,Mo
qty.1 ,no.519,Kitchen cabinet white&. First part of A. Still havent figured out what kind if a Hoosier it is .I could have a ZZZ Top to an A.... makin me crazzzy !!!! and my eye sight worse .
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Well, I haven't been able to find a Hoosier with that same distictive window yours has. You may not be able to positively ID the manufacturer and may have to look at similar ones and determine an approximate date range from those. I'm not a furniture expert but Hoosiers fell out of favor when built-in cabinets caught on in the twenties. I think that the last ones were made in the thirties or a few in the forties. I suspect the style of your is 1920-1940. Can anyone else comment on that?
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I think the best bet for dating that cabinet is the "red trim" around the porcelain work surface.
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Yep Guys I'm still at it. :)My husband and I went out to a few antique stores this past Tues .Tales of thought of you immediately :)Some of the old locks ,doors and hardware Awesome.Found a Hoosier... what a beauty Anyway got me to talking about my Hoosier , she told me mine sounded like Deco so I am on a new lead .
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Hi Foxeygma,
I've found a couple that are pretty close to yours .. (2nd pic)
http://schultzauctioneerslandmarkrealty.com/3-generation-farmstead-auction/
and another one from an Auction, but not much info, although the first gives it as being 50s.
Nevertheless, a lovely piece, the whole flavour reminds me of my mother's kitchen when I was small, although we wouldn't have had a Hoosier but something that was probably cobbled together.