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Title: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 21, 2010, 11:35:49 AM
Here's another one...

This is a nouveau style lamp that looks like it's bronze with either brass or gold plating.  the only identifying mark on it is '1971' in a box.  I did a patent research on the chord and it is from 1956, though I know that it doesn't necessarily mean that is when the lamp was made.  It looks like the sockets for the light bulbs are newer than the lamp.  

The underside of the cap is the only thing that wasn't painted so I'm getting a bronze feel from that.  The gold color painting is subtle, but is two-toned from the emboss and the relief design.

I know it would not be a 'real' lamp from the nouveau time-period because of the date of the chord.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

 ;D
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 21, 2010, 11:42:29 AM
more pics
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 21, 2010, 11:44:58 AM
two more
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: KC on October 21, 2010, 01:11:57 PM
Marcy, I am not sure what the base metal is on the lamp but do believe you have a bronze/gold finish only.

If so, value $10 - $20.

Just do touchups on this and it will be a real sharp looker again!!!!!
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 21, 2010, 01:22:54 PM
That's what I thought! Thanks! Hubby will disagree, his dad told him it was worth something.  If I were going to keep it, I'd paint it to match my house!

Thanks KC!
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 21, 2010, 05:29:06 PM
I was just informed that this used to have a glass shade with paintings on the inside, which shone through when the lamp was on...if that means anything!
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: cogar on October 22, 2010, 01:23:11 AM
Me thinks that is at least a circa 1920 - 1930 lamp. It hs been re-wired which makes no never mind.

If you look at the picture of the underneath of the base and note the rod holding the lamp parts together.

If that was a newer lamp that would be a piece of all-thread hollow tubing with a hex nut holding it tight.

Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: mariok54 on October 22, 2010, 09:22:23 AM
Hi Marcy,
As you suggest you can't really go by the cord/cable, as Cogar says it could so easily have been re-wired, possibly more than once, and anyone who wants to use it now would probably re-wire it again. And it looks as if it could easily be anything from Edwardian up to the 20's. Shame about the shade, though. You can find replacements, and hope for a happy marriage, but could be pricey!
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 22, 2010, 10:01:05 AM
Thanks guys!  Does anyone know what that type of shade that would be called?  Just so I could try to research it further...

 ;D
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: mariok54 on October 22, 2010, 11:03:19 AM
Hi Marcy,

It is hard to tell, but am I guessing correctly that the piece you are holding screws on to retain the shade? If so you need to measure that to give you the possible dimensions of the shade's opening. Other than that, the style is up to you. I bought an old Victorian/Edwardian lamp (minus shade) a couple of years back from a Car Boot sale for very little (about £4 as I recall) . Looking around for a replacement shade was a nightmare ...I found a few sites (here in the UK) that specialised in original pieces but the shades alone were a fortune! About six months later I came across a dirty old shade in a charity shop which was roughly the same period, which looked as if it would clean up nicely, and snapped it up for next to nothing. I also snapped up another six glass shades that fitted a French wood & brass cieling light (bought on Ebay without any shades) ... I only needed four, but I now have two spares. Altogether I paid £8 for the lot! It may just be a case of being patient and keeping your eyes open  ;)
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: cogar on October 23, 2010, 01:56:46 AM
Marcy, I'm guessing it originally had a glass shade and may have looked similar to this one, to wit:

(http://www.hoylelamps.com/antique%20lamps/antique%20lamp%20mission%20shade1.jpg)

or the one pictured here:

http://www.shoptablelamps.com/TL99085.htm?cm_mmc=BIZR-SH-_-Table%20Lamps-_-Table%20Lamps-_-TL99085 (http://www.shoptablelamps.com/TL99085.htm?cm_mmc=BIZR-SH-_-Table%20Lamps-_-Table%20Lamps-_-TL99085)
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: mariok54 on October 23, 2010, 02:08:23 AM
Very attractive shade, Cogar... and something like that would work a treat I'd say.
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 23, 2010, 09:38:16 AM
That's very nice.  Thanks cogar!
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 28, 2010, 01:16:57 PM
sooooooooooooo....w e were going through a photo album at my FIL's and found this picture of the lamp!
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: waywardangler on October 28, 2010, 01:42:58 PM
Just try and do that with discs, flash drives, CDs, DVDs, etc.  There is a reason why printed photos are needed!
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 28, 2010, 05:13:58 PM
this one has the same cap.  I'm assuming all the value lies in the shades, not really the bases...
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: sapphire on October 28, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
I think you may be right there marcy. Did a search on 'reverse painted lamp shades' and came up with these.....

Images -

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&biw=1228&bih=684&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=reverse+painted+lamp+shade&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

Info -

http://www.antiquelampco.com/Catalog/ReversePaint.htm

Some prices -

http://www.hoylelamps.com/Lamp%20Shades%20-%20Glass%20Reverse%20Hand%20Painted%20Shades.htm
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: mariok54 on October 29, 2010, 01:21:39 AM
this one has the same cap.  I'm assuming all the value lies in the shades, not really the bases...

Hi Marcy,
That was my experience, and the prices over there, for replacement shades, certainly seem to be a little more reasonable than the ones I found from retailers over here. But with me, as you will recall, patience paid off and we picked up a beautiful one dirt cheap. As it happens, when I found them in the charity shop, the table lamp shade came with a very ugly lamp, and the ceiling shades also came with a 'newish' chandelier .. I'm not sure whether they were pleased or not when I paid for them but told them I only wanted the glass shades.  ;D
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 29, 2010, 11:00:07 AM
hmmmmmm....that's giving me some ideas...being an artist and all....would love to replace the shade.....
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: mariok54 on October 29, 2010, 12:22:40 PM
Keen to hear what they are .... :)
What sort of medium do you work in?
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: marcylove on October 29, 2010, 12:54:11 PM
I do mainly acrylic work, mural  paintings and pet portraits.  But I 've been doing graphic design for the past 17 years.
Title: Re: Nouveau style lamp
Post by: mariok54 on October 29, 2010, 01:01:51 PM
I can see that a talented lass such as yourself might just come up with some keen ideas!