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Title: Grandma's China
Post by: Oceans64 on October 23, 2010, 10:25:40 AM
I don't know much about these other than the obvious.  The china belonged to the hubby's Grandma and is at least 40 years old - may be older as it may have belonged to his G-Gma but not sure.  I looked on replacements and see nothing to match the mark - poked around some obvious named patterns but no luck so thought I'd try here.  Don't really need a value as we aren't selling - actually may need to buy a few.
Thanks for your help!  (PS: I'll keep looking on replacements too so if this is labor intensive, don't bother. I'm just hoping someone would know)

Front
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n494/bwaltier/China/FullPlateFront.jpg)

Close Up of pattern - is rough - maybe a decal?
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n494/bwaltier/China/FlowerCloseUp.jpg)

Marks on back of plate - The one in the lower left corner looks like an amperstan...
(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n494/bwaltier/China/AllMarks.jpg)

(http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/n494/bwaltier/China/Mark.jpg)
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: Oceans64 on October 23, 2010, 10:47:39 AM
I just found one that is close...  Do China Makers do variations of the same theme?

http://images.replacements.com/images/images5/china/F/franconia_krautheim_tosca_dinner_plate_P0000026584S0010T2.jpg
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: mariok54 on October 23, 2010, 11:13:30 AM
Apologies if you get multiple posts, but for some reason I keep losing them.

Hi Oceans,

Yours seems to be called Franconia, either for the design or the artist....

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/franconia-krautheim-bavaria-germany-aida-china

http://cgi.ebay.com/FRANCONIA-Krautheim-CARMEN-Cup-Saucer-Set-1940s-German-/130368424268?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5a90494c#ht_5511wt_767
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: wendy177 on October 23, 2010, 11:23:25 AM
Your piece is by FRANCONIA/KRAUTHEIM   and the pattern name is CARMEN When searching on www.replacements.co m the company is listed as Krautheim-see Fr click that and you can find the pattern  :) They placed the pattern in diffrent spots within a pattern line depending on shape & size of the piece.  (was that clear or to confusing)  :-\
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: Oceans64 on October 23, 2010, 11:35:18 AM
Thank you both!!!!  I was searching thru a bunch of patterns and started in the middle...  Was going to take me awhile to get to "C"'s  AMAZING how you guys found that so fast!!  Saved me a bunch of time...  Making a note an putting it in the box  :)

Thank you SO much...
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: mariok54 on October 23, 2010, 11:38:58 AM
I think Wendy is up on me, as I just found another piece by 'Franconia' but a different design .

You probably have already come across this site, but I stumbled across it by pure chance

http://www.chinatraders.com/newapp/allpattern.asp?cid=92&company=Franconia%20Krautheim

Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: Oceans64 on October 23, 2010, 11:47:13 AM
Hahaha Mariok...  then you must have acidentally sent me the right pattern on eBay...  In fact I am missing EXACTLY 2 tea cups.  I'm not going to buy them now as we are packing to move and I will worry about it when we get there but I thought it was funny!!!

I had already put in some time searching and you 2 just popped right out with the answer  :)
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: mariok54 on October 23, 2010, 11:50:46 AM
Always happy to oblige  :)
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: wendy177 on October 23, 2010, 12:18:09 PM
Yup mariok54 you had the correct  maker just helpin out with  the pattern name  :)
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: KC on October 23, 2010, 01:52:04 PM
Bit of information....this pattern and variations (made by all different makers) were some of the most popular after WWII.

You could buy unmarked versions at the 5 & Dime stores.
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: Oceans64 on October 23, 2010, 02:00:28 PM
Good to know KC - I wish they still did sell them in 5 & Dimes so I could get some cheap for the heavy handed steak knife users in my family!!  In the past (with other china) I've just mixed an matched with plain white china-like dishes and let the men use those!   ::)
Title: Re: Grandma's China
Post by: KC on October 23, 2010, 02:09:46 PM
LOL!  Know what you mean!