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Title: sapho painting
Post by: olecanalantiques on November 09, 2010, 09:00:58 AM
Curious???
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: waywardangler on November 09, 2010, 09:04:03 AM
Come hither yon antiquer!  What is "sapho"?  The artist, the paintings name, or ?  Not something my wife would allow me to hang but looks well done.
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: Oceans64 on November 09, 2010, 09:22:35 AM
Is this a print or an actual painting?  Can we see more pics of the back of the frame, and size, and cool record player in back of it, and... lol

From Wiki: Charles August Mengin (1853 - April 3, 1933), was a French painter of the Academic art movement. He was born in Paris, France, and was educated by Gecker and Alexandre Cabanel. Mengin first exhibited at the Paris Salon in 1876. He is known for his painting of Sappho, now in the collection of the Manchester Art Gallery.
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: olecanalantiques on November 09, 2010, 09:50:33 AM
That's it!! It has that on a little title teg below the painting on the frame! Sorry for the lousy pic guys, I took it on my droid.

The little jukette is a neat little item!
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: CuriousCollector on November 09, 2010, 10:07:44 AM
Sappho is the most famous female ancient greek poet.  Her love poems are addressed to a young woman.  She was born on the island of Lesbos (from whence the term "lesbian" originates). 
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: marcylove on November 09, 2010, 10:11:29 AM
I LOVE it!  This would be a great painting above a bathtub!
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: olecanalantiques on November 09, 2010, 10:59:53 AM
Ok, well my dad says it's probably a print but it has brush texture?? I dunno.... I don' know art very well, yet!!
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: mariok54 on November 09, 2010, 11:03:54 AM
If it were a genuine Mengin then you could probably retire   ;)

Even if it is a print on canvass it's still worth a minimum of £50 - £100 framed up like that

check this out

http://www.illusionsgallery.com/sappho.html

Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: Oceans64 on November 09, 2010, 11:18:29 AM
If it were a genuine Mengin then you could probably retire   ;)
  LOL - But not before you answer a few questions from the Manchester Art Gallery.
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: olecanalantiques on November 09, 2010, 11:27:53 AM
Will prints have texture?
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: mariok54 on November 09, 2010, 11:42:40 AM
If it were a genuine Mengin then you could probably retire   ;)
  LOL - But not before you answer a few questions from the Manchester Art Gallery.


True, and unfortunately there is an extradition treaty between us  ;)
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: Oceans64 on November 09, 2010, 12:06:25 PM
Will prints have texture?
I wouldn't think so but what do I know.  There are oil repros out there.  Can you date the frame? Maybe post more pics of the back?  Oils aren't usually put behind glass are they?
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: mariok54 on November 09, 2010, 12:17:57 PM
If it is a copy in oils, then it is a very accomplished one, from what we can tell from the photo... and very interesting
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: olecanalantiques on November 09, 2010, 12:35:01 PM
I will get some better pics soon.
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: marcylove on November 09, 2010, 12:35:16 PM
there is a technique of brushing clear paint over prints to give them texture.  It is a matter of looking to see if the texture matches the stroke of what is being painting (like the curve of an apple).  If there is a lot if texture, than you may be able to see if the texture actually has pigment in it, from looking from the side.  

If it is not too much to take the frame off, you could see if it was a print or painting depending on how the painted edges look...straight like it's been taped off, or printed from a plate, or messy like an actual painted canvas...make sense?
Title: Re: sapho painting
Post by: olecanalantiques on November 09, 2010, 12:52:52 PM
Indeed it does Marcy!! Once things settle down around here with this auction i will do some more checking, it has me very curious, dad is freaking out because we may have made a booboo by sticking it in this sort of auction  :-\