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Title: Another What is it
Post by: tmerrifield on March 27, 2011, 09:21:28 AM
You've done so well in the past,  thought I'd throw another challenge to you.
It is  a tool, besides the handle it consists of 3 metal pieces, the screws are loose enough
so that all 3 pieces move.   I did find the answer today-  I expect that with your expertise,
someone can come up with it, but if not, I'll post it in a day or so.
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: cogar on March 27, 2011, 09:49:17 AM
GC, I figured out what it was partly used for.
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: tmerrifield on March 27, 2011, 10:01:00 AM
@Cogar-   That didn't take long, but then with all the brainpower on this site, I figured it wouldn't
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on March 27, 2011, 10:35:13 AM
Sure looks like a can opener to me!
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: mariok54 on March 27, 2011, 10:43:19 AM
Sure looks like a can opener to me!

That's what I was thinking when I first saw it, but I can't make out how it would work ..  :-\

Does something 'fit into' tool .. like a blade into a Stanley Knife?
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: tmerrifield on March 27, 2011, 11:37:53 AM
good guess Tales, but no.

Mariok-  you are close, there are actually 2 pieces that fit into the slots in the 2 larger pieces. 
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: mariok54 on March 27, 2011, 11:52:29 AM
I am guessing that you unscrew the centre screw in the centre of pic 2 .. then something gets slotted into it, fitting onto the tiny lug, and the arm swings back and gets screwed down again ...  But what???
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: tmerrifield on March 27, 2011, 12:03:09 PM
Here is a picture of the tool with the 2 pieces (labeled D )which fit into the slots 
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: waywardangler on March 27, 2011, 12:18:38 PM
Wrong image but close, it is a later patent by Septimus Stokes that you want...#132219 of 1872 for an Improvement in combined knife-sharpeners and glass-cutters. The one you posted was his original patent for the knife-sharpener only. Your tool also has the glass cutter.
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: tmerrifield on March 27, 2011, 12:35:54 PM
wayward-  I stand corrected- the diagram you show definately is a better fit than the one I came up with.
the only thing that confuses me is that mine is definately marked Pat d May 3 1870 (when his earlier one was
patented)-  
 Thanks everyone
Again your knowlege and expertise is fantastic.
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: waywardangler on March 27, 2011, 12:45:43 PM
On patented items, the thing to remember is the patent may just refer to one part of the object (in some cases, items were marked patented that never were) and not the object as a whole.  This patent date refers to his original patent improvement for a knife-sharpener that was granted on May 3, 1870. He added the glass cutter and patented it later. being that the wood handle is marked and not the metal (have you looked real close for any markings on the metal?), I would guess he used old handle stock from his earlier patent to assemble this one. A common occurrence. Thrifty is as thrifty does.

I found the same image you posted but there was no glass cutter which is quite obvious on your tool, so I put "stokes knife sharpener" into the search and the later patent that included the glass cutter appeared. As I was about to post on the forum, you also posted, so I had to adjust mine a little.
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: tmerrifield on March 27, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
Good point-  I see no markings on the metal, but your keen eye is correct it is the later model-  Thanks again, I'm learning quite a bit from this group-
Us Yankees are known to be frugal
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on March 27, 2011, 08:42:09 PM
Love that name Septimus Stokes!  ;D
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: cogar on March 28, 2011, 09:02:30 AM
@Cogar-   That didn't take long, but then with all the brainpower on this site, I figured it wouldn't


I was hoping you would figure out why I addressed you as GC.

I wanted to let you know that I knew without giving the answer away.
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: waywardangler on March 28, 2011, 10:16:12 AM
Hmmm, I get it now, cogar, but at the time, I did not. I do not know if tmerrifield got your clue.
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: tmerrifield on March 28, 2011, 03:55:31 PM
@cogar-  I appreciate you letting the game go on.   and no,  I did not get the GC clue until wayward helped me out.
You guys are good.  Thanks again
Title: Re: Another What is it
Post by: cogar on March 29, 2011, 03:38:03 AM
I was just about to give up and admit defeat when the "square slot" got my attention and I says "where have I seen that before" ....... so I clicked to enlarge the picture and sure nuff ......... there was that carbide "cutter wheel", to wit:

(http://www.onlinetips.org/images/glass-cutter.jpg)