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Title: help with this piece
Post by: Alan cañedo on June 16, 2011, 10:27:39 PM
Hi everyboy, my ame is Alan, i´m in north of México.

I need helt to know about this piece, my dad buy it si don know the use, if anybody can helpme:

Here the pics:

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0001.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0002.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0003.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0004.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0005.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0006.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0007.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0008.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0009.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0010.jpg)
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: mart on June 17, 2011, 10:16:11 AM
Are there markings anywhere ??  What is the size ? Look on the bottom of the interior pan as well !!
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: mariok54 on June 17, 2011, 10:17:52 AM
Hi

What size is it? And I'm not sure what I'm seeing, but does the lid swivel?
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: Alan cañedo on June 17, 2011, 11:44:44 AM
It has no mark or inscription somewhere.

The cover turns.

I can assume it is a religious object, but I can not tell.

Here are more pictures with details.

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0016.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0017.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0018.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0019.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0015.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0011.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0012.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0013.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/piece0014.jpg)





Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: CuriousCollector on June 17, 2011, 11:46:46 AM
A salt cellar maybe?
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: mariok54 on June 17, 2011, 11:51:19 AM
My first thought was an incense burner, but then again, I'd have thought that it would have had a pierced top???
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: ironlord1963 on June 17, 2011, 11:59:40 AM
Butter Pate, Silverplate, Late 1800's early 1900's
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: mart on June 17, 2011, 12:35:05 PM
It looks brass. And the face on it looks European !!  Could be a salt container as salt was once very valuable !! Or some other spice ?? I don`t think its a religious object !!
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: ironlord1963 on June 17, 2011, 12:54:00 PM
Butter or Cheese Pate or Dish, These was used in the late and early Century,  Usually has a Glass insert.  If you look at ebay under silverplate Butter Dish you will see several of the round Covered ones.
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: waywardangler on June 17, 2011, 01:14:47 PM
The top looks like it could be silver because of the stamped design. Not usually seen with silver plate. The rest does appear to be silver plate. I would look this over with a loupe very closely for hallmarks as they could be tiny and overlooked with the naked eye.
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: ironlord1963 on June 17, 2011, 01:22:19 PM
Wayward is right, it is rare to find a Silverplate item that does not have a mark, Modern silverplate sometimes has no marks.  But much pride in silverplate items and 95% will have some sort of marks.  Look on the back side of the feet, many times I have found them here.
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: KC on June 17, 2011, 02:10:19 PM
Butter dish!!!!  The top design looks almost egyptian revival...but the Butter God isn't that style!
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: Alan cañedo on June 17, 2011, 07:30:31 PM
look for markings on three legs, but found none.

some details of the engraving on the top

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/antgrab0001.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/antgrab0002.jpg)

(http://oxidado.com.mx/antique/antgrab0003.jpg)
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: mariok54 on June 17, 2011, 11:47:54 PM
As they say in the Trade... Looks like someone's taken a Brillo Pad to it!
Still an interesting piece.

Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: waywardangler on June 18, 2011, 06:32:21 AM
There just is no good substitute for silver polish and elbow grease.
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on June 18, 2011, 10:29:38 AM
I agree it's a butter dish and I bet if you used a little Wrights Silver Polish on it it would be beautiful! Here's a similar butter dish on Worthpoint.
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lovely-antique-silverplated-covered-butter-dish (http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/lovely-antique-silverplated-covered-butter-dish)
At first I thought this was a spoon warmer, but those generally have a trap door type of panel in the cover.
Title: Re: help with this piece
Post by: Alan cañedo on June 21, 2011, 10:12:41 PM
Thanks for your answers, now i need help because it has no inscription or mark.