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Title: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: jabiloxi on July 22, 2011, 06:55:26 PM

I found a few items at some yard sales I did this past weekend.  Really curious if anyone has any idea about what these are.  I think one of these is a purse but it looks very vintage or antique.  The other two are perfume bottles that may have gold caps.  One of the botles has some engravings along the rim of the cap on the outside (looks like letters "CN" and not sure about the others, very small).  I know i should probably gold test the perfume bottles.
Any info is helpful.
Joe

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Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: flablitz on July 22, 2011, 07:00:25 PM

Pictures would be a bit more helpful for anyone here to give you accurate information. (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f89/BLaZeKVCD/wink.gif)

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on July 23, 2011, 02:11:35 AM

The two bottles look like antique perfume bottles. Not sure of the age, I'm kinda out of my area here.

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: wendy177 on July 23, 2011, 07:20:35 AM

Your perfume bottles in my opinion are English made around mid to late 1800s In this market maybe $200.00 each if you could put a maker with your pieces the value could jump  $500.00 - $1,000.00 such as Stuart & sons  of London did this kind of work in that era. I believe your other piece is not a purse but  could possibly be an enameled perfume bottle case. Again placing a maker to this piece is key as to value.

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: dontbe on July 23, 2011, 12:46:59 PM

Quote from: wendy177 on July 23, 2011, 07:20:35 AM

Your perfume bottles in my opinion are English made around mid to late 1800s In this market maybe $200.00 each if you could put a maker with your pieces the value could jump  $500.00 - $1,000.00 such as Stuart & sons  of London did this kind of work in that era. I believe your other piece is not a purse but  could possibly be an enameled perfume bottle case. Again placing a maker to this piece is key as to value.

nice Wendy.. Thanks for the info. We learn something every day.
Ed

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: jabiloxi on July 23, 2011, 03:59:15 PM

Defintely, Thanks Wendy.  How do I figure out the maker?  I have been trying to figur out what the engraving on the perfume bottles say.  My camera isnt good enough to capture the tiny print but I will try my scanner tonight  and see if that can help.  I sincerely appreciate the advice :)

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: waywardangler on July 23, 2011, 04:19:42 PM

If you have engraving on those bottles, I would use a jewelers loupe to magnify what is engraved so you can see what they say.

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: wendy177 on July 23, 2011, 04:21:45 PM

Your welcome ~ :D  Try going over all your  pieces carefully with a jewelers loupe and try to draw the markings if they are to small to photograph. The only way to tell the makers are to track the marks or find cataloged proof of each bottle in old records or antique perfume bottle books.  Sorry Wayward did not read your reply before I posted

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: KC on July 23, 2011, 07:30:12 PM

Can you list dimensions please?

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: sapphire on July 25, 2011, 06:29:38 AM

Pay particular attention to the silver band around the top of the vials.  If you're like me (loupeless  ;) ) angle it in good light in front of a window, using a magnifying glass.....you can photograph it right through the glass.

Like this.....

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: jabiloxi on August 01, 2011, 06:42:02 PM

So I was able to figure out the markings or hallmarks on the larger gilded perfume bottle were as follows: The Letters "CN", a horizontal anchor, The Letter "S", and finally the lion passant.  I know the last one should mean sterling silver but anyone have any ideas about the others?  And also would the purse be considered cloisonne?

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: sapphire on August 01, 2011, 07:45:06 PM

You said the anchor is horizontal?  Not vertical?

And anchor/S/lion in that order?

Also, are the initials CN or C&N ?


An anchor (vertical) and lion would be Birmingham and there is a maker C&N Chrisford & Norris

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: sapphire on August 01, 2011, 08:02:21 PM

Think I answered part of my own question(s)

http://www.ascasonline.org/articoloAGOS100.html       (under Birmingham 1897)

"The clear struck hallmarks on the inner edge of the vesta and at the outside of the lid are an anchor for Birmingham assay office (horizontal for pre-1900 silver), the lion passant for sterling silver and a gothic date letter ‘x’ for the year 1897-1898."


Birmingham Letter Date Chart ............ top right of page

http://www.925-1000.com/dlBirmingham.html

Title: Re: Is anyone familiar with any of these antiques?
Post by: sapphire on August 01, 2011, 08:09:48 PM

An easier to read Letter Date chart for Birmingham......

http://www.silvercollection.it/englishsilverhallmarksBIR.html